Michael

Ha! Someone finally understand what I have been trying to say by reading an article! Not attacking you Osna! You know you are on my good side

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Snake Vargas

Yeah, I know. I only own a few though, of one company. I'll probably get rid of them at some point in any case. I wish that little thing could make a difference, but I'd probably be kidding myself. Nevertheless, like I said, if I don't like it I should do something, or else shut up and put up.

I have no problem with companies making a profit per se, but it's the neglect of social effects and moral considerations that turns me off, and the greed that makes them not content with smaller profits but seeking to be the best and richest.

Michael

If I am not mistaken the case is also the same with Chinese CEOs. They are not paid as much as CEOs in the US. I think the money paying companies, like the ones in the US, is a trend that may only seen in such a country like the US that is obssessed with paying the most oddest positions the most money.

One thing that always gets me is the classic tale of the police officer and the teacher. The police officer and the teacher, alone, make more of a different in a community than a CEO does. Why aren't they paid more? It is rather interesting to note, that at one time I was at a lecture by one of my professors in which he noted that he was a paleo-conservative and he was pragmatic of things. He argued that the garbage collector, and others alike for that matter, should get paid on how much their position is valued at. Giving value to a position is a hardship onto itself, however, hypotheically speaking, if one could do this, the garbage collector would get paid more.

Also, has anyone noticed that names for the lowest positions have changed, as if they want to change the title for 1. the community not to look down the such a position and once a new, more elegant or professional name is in place, the upper class, middle class, and even the lower class can speak of it as if it is better that the name that was given before? For example(in case some of you have lost me here), take for instance Custodian. The person who cleans at the office, or buildling. Many companies have changed the name of this position to Sanitation Engineer or Sanitation Technician. What gives?


SV you are right, but one thing I would like to mention is that it seems that society as a whole--the US and many western countries--have given up on virtues, which personally, is what enables companies to function in such a manner. A manner in which they may attention, with great regard, to social issues and the impact of their success. Capitalism has enabled democraices, for the most part, to modify their company, profits, etc., in order to succeed,and they do this at whatever cost. I think Capitalism, in many ways or forms, does away with ethical and moral values. I don't think you can have them when you consider such a fierce market and Adam Smith's invisible hand.

Hypersonic

Funny .....because I said exactly the same thing in my very first post in this thread

Michael

Oh really. My apologies I didn't realize that.

Here we go...


You are right in saying that Rob. However, a few posts after, I started saying that, and I proposed my proportionality theory.

Imhotep Evil

That my friend is only a small part of the iceberg. Vulgar are also some of those baroque estates/palaces made for the nouveau riche of the post-renaissance period. And it goes back even further, way, way further.

Michael

IE why did you go on and have to mention an artist, or period where Rob will feel the need to post his inspirations in life. just kidding.

Hypersonic

I should stop dong that ..sorry (post deleted.)

450SEL6.9

Chinese CEOs are paid very little in many cases. Keep in mind that the shares in these huge Chinese companies are all mostly (50, 60, 75%) owned by the Chinese government. They don't dish out American-style payoffs.

Michael

NO NO NO. You did not have to delete that post my friend. I was only joking. I apologize.

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