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Old 01-24-2007, 03:51 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Nintendo Wii Slaughters Sony PS3 in Sales!

comparing the Wii to the PS3 is like comparing the M3 to a supercar. ya the wii sold more than twice as much but the PS3 sold for each unit going almost 3 times as much as the Wii.
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Old 01-24-2007, 04:06 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Nintendo Wii Slaughters Sony PS3 in Sales!

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But don't worry, PS3 is technologically superior to Xbox 360 so it will have the best graphics in the console world eventually.
That's not cartain. In fact many consumer electronics experts say that apart fron the blu ray the two systems are more or less equal in capabilities with the 360 being much easier to program (very important for developers).
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Old 01-24-2007, 05:05 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Nintendo Wii Slaughters Sony PS3 in Sales!

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As different as the Wii is (not to mention how competitive the price is), the style of game they have so far will not last very long. To me personally, I enjoyed that tennis game, but I'd rather be playing GT4 or Project Gotham.
Weather or not the immersive style of interacting with the Wii has staying power is yet to be seen. Thus far, the Zelda game has been very well recieved, and is very representative of the "Alpha Male" type game that makes up the core of the industry.
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Old 01-24-2007, 05:20 PM   #14 (permalink)
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It takes some time before the game developers get to know how to use all the potential of the console so the launch games still aren't that good in visual look. But don't worry, PS3 is technologically superior to Xbox 360 so it will have the best graphics in the console world eventually.
I don't think that's a given by any means.

The formula by which consoles do battle has changed from what we dealt with in the past. Graphic performance is definitely why the SNES eventually surpassed the Sega Genesis / Mega Drive, good 3D titles is what gave the PlayStation the jump on the Sega Saturn and a lack of horsepower is why the Sega Dreamcast eventually captulated in the face of the XBox and PS2.

But now we've hit the wall of deminishing returns on what our consoles can do, and what kind of response it gets out of us. No doubt, the PS3 has the potential to deliver astonighing graphics - but maybe astonishing graphics are becoming passé. Sure, I can see chunks of brain flying out of a zombies skull when I blast it with my assult rifle, but the overall effect isn't terribly different from same zombie game ported onto the 360 or Wii.

I could be wrong, but this time around massive processing horsepower could be the least important component in the gaming equation. The PS3 will up the ante with more sophisticated environments, but then again, so will programmers finesse better performance out of the 360 and Wii.
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Old 01-24-2007, 05:28 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Wink Re: Nintendo Wii Slaughters Sony PS3 in Sales!

The other ironic thing is that the PS3 was officially unveiled with this normal sc-fi game pad

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Old 01-24-2007, 05:31 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Unhappy Re: Nintendo Wii Slaughters Sony PS3 in Sales!

does anyone recall that when the PS3 was officially unveiled with this normal sc-fi game pad and then they resorted to going back to the old PS2 gamepad. wat was up with that?

The irony of the whole thing is that when Sony saw the Wii's trump card was their motion sensing controller, they decided to hijack that technology for the PS3. Even then, its still being out sold by the Wii!
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Old 01-24-2007, 05:32 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Nintendo Wii Slaughters Sony PS3 in Sales!

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That's not cartain. In fact many consumer electronics experts say that apart fron the blu ray the two systems are more or less equal in capabilities with the 360 being much easier to program (very important for developers).
12 years ago, the Sega Saturn had theoretically more powerful hardware than the PlayStation, but because of the parallel processors and the inefficiency of addressing it with C programming, it was an absolute chore for developers. When the games delivered, they were awesome (like Virtua Fighter 2). But for the most part, the 3D offerings were overshadowed by the more consistent library of games available for the PlayStation.

The issues that developers are having with the Cell processor might be a nonissue if the PlayStation hits the critical mass that makes it a lucrative platform for 3rd parties. On the other hand, if Sony's sales still trail by a wide margin after Christmas 2007, it may be too late.

The race is still wide open. I really can't predict where Wii and PS3 will be one year from now, but for now it looks like Sony has plenty to worry about. Especially critical is that Wii has been a hit in its native country, which means alot for 3rd party support.

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I don't think that's a given by any means.

The formula by which consoles do battle has changed from what we dealt with in the past. Graphic performance is definitely why the SNES eventually surpassed the Sega Genesis / Mega Drive, good 3D titles is what gave the PlayStation the jump on the Sega Saturn and a lack of horsepower is why the Sega Dreamcast eventually captulated in the face of the XBox and PS2.

But now we've hit the wall of deminishing returns on what our consoles can do, and what kind of response it gets out of us. No doubt, the PS3 has the potential to deliver astonighing graphics - but maybe astonishing graphics are becoming passé. Sure, I can see chunks of brain flying out of a zombies skull when I blast it with my assult rifle, but the overall effect isn't terribly different from same zombie game ported onto the 360 or Wii.

I could be wrong, but this time around massive processing horsepower could be the least important component in the gaming equation. The PS3 will up the ante with more sophisticated environments, but then again, so will programmers finesse better performance out of the 360 and Wii.
It's going to be very even with 360 vs. PS3 for the first year at least. But I believe that later on when the developers can get the most out of the PS3 there will be a more visible difference. This is what they say on cnn.com:

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Old 01-24-2007, 05:45 PM   #19 (permalink)
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It's going to be very even with 360 vs. PS3 for the first year at least. But I believe that later when the developers get the most out of the PS3 there will be a more visible difference. This is what they say on cnn.com:
Here's the thing. By the time programmers are completely acclimated with the amazing feats they can perform on the PS3 it may be too late. There's roughly no more than a one-year window left before an "Alpha Male" emerges from this pack of consoles.

The PS3 may become the new frontier for amazing feats of gaming realism, but the accomplishments may also be the least compelling to all but die-hard gamers who can appreciate fine details. "New Class of Gaming Physics" is marketing spin. I have no reason to believe that raw computing power is going to create games that are a serious jump above what we'll see in the future from the 360 and the Wii.
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Old 01-24-2007, 06:10 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Here's the thing. By the time programmers are completely acclimated with the amazing feats they can perform on the PS3 it may be too late. There's roughly no more than a one-year window left before an "Alpha Male" emerges from this pack of consoles.

The PS3 may become the new frontier for amazing feats of gaming realism, but the accomplishments may also be the least compelling to all but die-hard gamers who can appreciate fine details. "New Class of Gaming Physics" is marketing spin. I have no reason to believe that raw computing power is going to create games that are a serious jump above what we'll see in the future from the 360 and the Wii.
You might be right that raw computing power only isn't going to take PS3 on top. The Wii presents a different philosophy to gaming with its revolutionary features. The PS3 doesn't bring something this new and different to the table. However Blu-ray is one advantage for the PS3. It is a cheap alternative to a separate Blu-ray player.
There are many factors to be taken into consideration. So it will be interesting to see how the PS3 is welcomed by the public when it has been introduced in the remaining markets.
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