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Old 11-21-2006, 04:08 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Re: Mercedes, Rolex and NevadaJack

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Jack I don't think I said I did not want to show the watch, however, if I did it may be because it is not mine but my fathers.
Sorry I probably mis-quoted...

This is what I was referring to..."I am into fine works of art, not the material aspect of showing off what I have."

I tried to explain why I have the Rolex and how my watch has no relationship to cars, celebrity, money or anything else discussed here except it's sentimental value and lifelong desire to own one.
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Old 11-21-2006, 04:27 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Could you share [the Ebay closing] price [of the Omega Planet Ocean Seamaster]? The problem with Ebay is the legitmacy of brands.
Sure. It was a 42mm Seamaster Planet Ocean with Orange Bezel / Steel Brand, and it sold for "only" $950. The watch wasn't new, but was in very good condition.

Given the street price of approx $2,200 for the same watch, that was a smoking deal.

Before you dive into an Ebay auction, it's best to watch things for a while and get a feel for how things go. Personally - I search for "Heuer Monaco" on a regular basis and can spot a fraud from a mile away. I've also gotten a very good feel for how much the Monaco is worth and how much I should pay if I'm looking for a good deal.

If you're set on a Seamaster Pro, or any other watch, it's best to search listings every couple of days and monitor all the "real auctions" (where there's no reserve and open bidding) to see how they go.

The particular Monaco I want usually Ebays for about $1,400 - but I've seen the thing go for as little as $980 in the same condition! You just need to be persistent. Eventually you'll find auction that, for whatever reason, isn't getting much attention from potential buyers.
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Old 11-21-2006, 09:58 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Re: I just bought a Breitling Tourbillon.

Well, I don't know if we have a lemon or not, but my dad's Rolex keeps breaking down. Suffice to say our impression of Rolex hasn't been great, it seems like his is not an isolated issue. Many of his friend's Rolexes have problems and after a while, they wear Rolex to dinners but keep the time via their handphones. I'll try to post a picture of his Rolex when he gets back from China, it's a beautiful white face with a bracelet... The name escapes me for the moment.
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Old 11-21-2006, 10:02 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Sorry I probably mis-quoted...

This is what I was referring to..."I am into fine works of art, not the material aspect of showing off what I have."

I tried to explain why I have the Rolex and how my watch has no relationship to cars, celebrity, money or anything else discussed here except it's sentimental value and lifelong desire to own one.
Oh. I get it now. I knew that either way you didn't have to explain yourself
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Old 11-22-2006, 02:18 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Re: I just bought a Breitling Tourbillon.

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Well, I don't know if we have a lemon or not, but my dad's Rolex keeps breaking down. Suffice to say our impression of Rolex hasn't been great, it seems like his is not an isolated issue. Many of his friend's Rolexes have problems and after a while, they wear Rolex to dinners but keep the time via their handphones.
Well, how old is the thing? All Rolexes come with a warranty. If there's an extreme deviation in the watches accuracy it can always be regulated.

Just like all mechanical watches, Rolexes need to be brought in for service every 3 - 5 years or so. There's no way around it, although you can always just wait until the thing simply isn't keeping reasonably accurate time.

I once had my TAG Heuer Link go crazy on me. All of a sudden the thing was ticking about an hour fast every day. I thought I'd need the movment overhauled but then out of the blue, it started keeping perfect time again.

Anyways, Rolex's automatic movments are regarded as some of the absolute most reliable. I guess folks expect perfection when it comes to Rolex, so problems are sometimes overamplified.
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Old 11-22-2006, 02:37 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Well, how old is the thing? All Rolexes come with a warranty. If there's an extreme deviation in the watches accuracy it can always be regulated.
It's barely three years old, I think. The service he did on the watch wasn't covered in the warranty. And the reason is: he dropped it. Fair enough, but aren't Rolexes supposed to work even after a minor drop?
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Old 11-22-2006, 03:04 AM   #47 (permalink)
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It's barely three years old, I think. The service he did on the watch wasn't covered in the warranty. And the reason is: he dropped it. Fair enough, but aren't Rolexes supposed to work even after a minor drop?
That doesn't sound right to me Mirage. Even dressier Rolexs shouldn't have a problem after being dropped, unless we're talking about an extreme height.

But if the watch is three years old, the warranty is expired and any work is gonna cost you. Finding a reasonable repair shop that can get the work done can really make a difference over time.

Just last weekend I discovered a shop that's willing to do a complete overhaul of my TAG Heuer for about $120. Way cheaper than some other quotes I've received.
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Old 11-22-2006, 03:18 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Come think, the perfect fitting for Rolex would be a partnership with Jaguar. Both brands are virtually laser-beamed towards the same audience.
Did you mean Jaeger LeCoultre Josh? -- that would not be right either because they have an historical association with Maserati.
I would think Patek Philippe would be by far the best association for Rolls-Royce.

Patek Philippe is equal to Rolls-Royce. You said that Rolls-Royce is not a 'pop' brand -- I must say Josh, I would beg to differ. Rolls-Royce has just as much pop-culture status as Coca Cola IMO -- Rolls-Royce has long been slightly kitsch.

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Old 11-22-2006, 03:13 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Did you mean Jaeger LeCoultre Josh?
No, of course not. What made you think that? We were debating what car brand would be make for a good Rolex tie-in.

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Patek Philippe is equal to Rolls-Royce. You said that Rolls-Royce is not a 'pop' brand -- I must say Josh, I would beg to differ. Rolls-Royce has just as much pop-culture status as Coca Cola IMO -- Rolls-Royce has long been slightly kitsch.
Rob, my man. What I said earlier was that Rolex is a pop brand, I didn't say that Rolls Royce wasn't a pop brand.

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...a Rolex partnership would be to the detriment of Rolls Royce. Rolex is a "luxury pop brand" synonymous with middle-class connsumerism, and projects an image RR is keen to avoid. In short, it's beneath them. There are plenty of A-list watch brands like Breguet, Patek Philippe and A. Lange & Sohne that are very well known and could build a positive relationship with Rolls Royce.
There's a big gap between what the Rolls Royce brand really is and the image it needs to project to stay healthy. The truth is that the Rolls Royce mythology of old-world decadence makes it an aspirational brand for new money and status seekers. However, it Rolls' job to project an image that's contrary to reality at all times, and with a straight face.

My point was that Rolls, if they entered the world of product tie-ins, would need to steer clear of (other) pop brands at all costs. So for that reason a Patek Philippe partnership could make perfect sense, and a Rolex partnership would not.
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Old 11-22-2006, 04:24 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Woah, Michael! That's the opposite of what I said.

The gist of my past dozen or so posts was that Rolex is perceived by the public at large as the "world's best watchmaker" because they don't know any better.
That is very true Josh. There a very few percentage of people who isn#t familiar with Rolex. Roles is lucky enough to get free advertising in movies, rap music and in all the other places where the brand name is mentioned.
Since the mass know that Rollies are expensive and well known they do think Rolex is the best manufacturer in the world.
Rolex can be compared with Sony, who many people I know think prdouces the best gadgets and home cinema products, but the truth is that there are brand which produces produces which are far more superior than Sony products.
Breitling on the other hand deserves as much, if not even more credit than Rolex for their innovative watches, which are very popular amongst pilots and divers.
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