Splenditenes

I wouldn`t even bother comparing the S65 AMG to anything else but the Bently Flying Spur and even it doesn`t compete with the King of the Streets.

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CAR-NNOSSEUR

I'm a big fan of the S65, but with so much more HP than
the S8 and 760 I can't give them but so much credit.
If BMW or Audi were to put 600 plus under the hood something tells me we wouldn't be raving about the
S65! None the less until then S65 is the king in a straight
line.

CarGuy

I agree which brings to show how childlish we act on this forum.
S65 is only awesome and stands out for most of us because of the imense power figure.
But even with all this power all u can do is 250 which makes this 600hp benchmark rather wasteful and meaningless
Its all about versatility and the M5 is the superior sedan.
What difference whould it make to us really if this had only 400-500hp.

Splenditenes

lOl, I`ve said it before.. If BMW or Audi introduced something of the likes MB would just leap frog it.. MB has always been the HP champions of the German makes. It`s been this way more than 50 years and it`s not going to change anytime soon.

I think it`s good to know MB has improved the overall dynamics of the W221 S65 compared to the outgoing model.

Mikael

Hmmm.. Sorry, it's going a bit off topic... Here goes anyway:
Well, I agree on you with the most of the things that you listed about S 65 compared to RS4 and S 65. But for example more power doesn't make the S 65 better than RS4 or M5. It's more about the power/weight relation and the fact that a smaller/lighter car doesn't need so much power as a big/heavier car. Also it's a bit funny that you mention only two things where the RS4 and M5 are better and then you claim that those are the only things where they are better.Driving dynamics for example can be divided into several smaller segments.
And your question about the M5, if you look at it as whole, it does seem like M5 is the perfect compromise between the two other. It has more space than RS4 but isn't so big and heavy that it would compromise on the driving dynamics. It has more than enough power and enough place unless you're a sumo wrestler. It might not be exactly as comfortable as its competitors (E 63 & S6) but when its handling is the standard in the class and it turns into almost a sports car with a push of a button, you know it's close to perfect as a sedan. And like Tiff of Fifth Gear says in the E60 M5 test: "we're about to test one of the greatest cars in the world".

The Artist

as i said the M5 is by far my fav recent bimmer..
i love it.. its gr8..
but like you said you can devide driving dynamics into smaller segments..i can devide about everything i said about the S65 into smaller segments..
driving dynamics where included in agility .. from my point of view..

still the fact remains all three sedans are killer..you cant go wrong with any of them.. but imo (and many others) the S65 rules them.. beacuse of many pros rather than a few for the other cars..

but ofcourse you will see ppl that dont give a crap about the pros than ive listed for the S65.. so its really from person to person as with everything else..

CAR-NNOSSEUR

You know what, why doesn't Mercedes just put a fighter jet
engine in all their car's so all the benz fans can say, "are car is better than your's, it has 10,000HP, now what!"

But your rite, it makes sense to put 100 or more HP's under the hood if you can't win no other way!

dyna-niet

first off all Mercedes benz s 65 amg is my favorite mb so thats that
but it do think that you are not right because the s65 is more like a limosine
than a saloon esspecially the l version so im my its not a saloon

and in my eyes, it is the m5 but it will not take away that i do like the s65
and why id take the m5 because i love this car longer than the s65 excist

The Artist

'lol hopefully in your life time you will see a 10Khp AMG..haha

and cant win no other way??..haha
MB´s motorsport heritage and cars like the CLK DTM and CLK GTR tells another story..and now im just talking performance department..we do not need to walk into other segments of the industry..

CAR-NNOSSEUR

Sorry Artist I'm not a fan of motorsports, nor does it matter
in regards to this topic "S65 AMG Review", however the S65 has over 600HP and runs 4.4sec 0 to 60. The S8 with 150HP less runs 0 to 60 in 4.7sec. If that's something to
be proud of than .

In regards to the CLK DTM & CLK GTR well ya got me
thier, don't know much about those vehicles thier not
sold state side, but I thought we were talking about
the S65? But since you mentioned it don't those car's
have between 500 & 600HP? What vehicles are in
it's class? How much HP do they have? How much does it cost? Are they compared to cars with equal power output?
I'd love to discuss those cars once I have these questions
answered

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