Car&Driver - S 600 vs. RR Phantom - Page 3

vabboud · 05-03-2006, 05:58 PM

Rolls Royce....if you ask why, you just don't get it!

Boz, you've just coined a legendary phrase!

The Artist · 05-03-2006, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RikfromBelgium

it's not the best 4 door in the world, it's the best 4 door in it's segment. It's rather useless to make such an assumption from outside the segment.

excuse me i should say the best car in the world..thats what many reviewers say about it

..
its the best car in its segment.. wich happens to be the segment with the best 4 door cars..

PS
Now please dont tell me that some bimmer 4door is better than the S

Osnabrueck · 05-04-2006, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bozzor

Well said Osna: by any objective measure a Rolls Royce makes no sense. May too much money for only a little more space (that you don't need) and a quieter ride (and most people could not hear or care about the difference). But that is not the point. If it was, Seikos and Citizens would rule the world, no one would buy Versace Rosenthal dinnerware and we would all walk around in cheap suits and screw Brioni. But that is not the way of the world...

Rolls Royce...if you ask why, you just don't get it...

I need you to sit in on some of my marketing discussions Boz. My company is in need of a new slogan, and we've been all choked-up for the past month over it. I'm sure you'd bang one out a classic within two minutes!

RikfromBelgium · 05-04-2006, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Artist

excuse me i should say the best car in the world..thats what many reviewers say about it

..
its the best car in its segment.. wich happens to be the segment with the best 4 door cars..

PS
Now please dont tell me that some bimmer 4door is better than the S

BS, because it all depends on what you want. When I said it was the best in the segment, that implied better than a 7 series, so don't try to make me say things I didn't say.
But, as I said, it all depends on what you want. If you want a big luxurious cruiser with High Tech stuff, yes the S-class is Top. If you want ostantatious luxury, go for the Rolls. If you want a smaller, luxurious and nimble sportssaloon, go for the 3 series. If you want a good saloon for your money, go for a Skoda Superb. All I'm saying is that "it's the best 4 door in the world" is a silly statement.

The Artist · 05-04-2006, 05:54 AM

well man you can twist and turn it..
like for example some says that M5 is ultimate performance sedan..
but that could also be BS.. cause if you want a small one RS4 is better and if you want a luxury one S65 is better..

it depends on wich glasses you look at it with.. and i have my MB glasses on all the time..hahah

Bozzor · 05-04-2006, 06:57 AM

Ha! Here are some more phrases for you guys...

Osna, here are some ideas...

"The Favacuu. If It Doesn't Blow, It Sucks."

"Porsche 911. Because she can't ride the Viagra back home..."

Hypersonic · 05-04-2006, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RikfromBelgium

BS, because it all depends on what you want. When I said it was the best in the segment, that implied better than a 7 series, so don't try to make me say things I didn't say.
But, as I said, it all depends on what you want. If you want a big luxurious cruiser with High Tech stuff, yes the S-class is Top. If you want ostantatious luxury, go for the Rolls. If you want a smaller, luxurious and nimble sportssaloon, go for the 3 series. If you want a good saloon for your money, go for a Skoda Superb. All I'm saying is that "it's the best 4 door in the world" is a silly statement.

Rik, you know I have respect for you and almost always agree with your opinions but this time I'm siding with The Artist ......you just can't argue with it, the S class will beat any four door vehicle you put it up against - lets be honest here, the M5 is an amazing car but the S65 would destroy it in a comparison test - tell me that's not so.

The Emperor · 05-04-2006, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Roberto

tell me that's not so.

Mind if i tell you it's not so (partially)?

Yeah, it'll (S65) kill the M5 in terms of luxury, comfort and power, but in every other mf thing the M5 is million times better, AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED!

And you pay a $h!tload more for that power, luxury and comfort, wich M5 for me and you has more than enough!

Yeah, the S65 is a monster, masterpiece, everything, but it definitely doesn't kill the M5 in every possible way like some of you claim!

Just my .02...

Merc1 · 05-04-2006, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TycoonGTR

Mind if i tell you it's not so (partially)?

Yeah, it'll (S65) kill the M5 in terms of luxury, comfort and power, but in every other mf thing the M5 is million times better, AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED!

And you pay a $h!tload more for that power, luxury and comfort, wich M5 for me and you has more than enough!

Yeah, the S65 is a monster, masterpiece, everything, but it definitely doesn't kill the M5 in every possible way like some of you claim!

Just my .02...

I really don't want to get in the middle of this, but the only thing the M5 would do better is go around a track....you know the handling categories, but everything else the S65 would easily do better. No car kills any competitive/same class of car in every possible way, that is a bit extreme. Then again the S65 and M5 are extreme cars. I really can't see what else besides handling type things (track times/steering etc.) the M5 would do better though.

M

The Emperor · 05-04-2006, 07:30 AM

Since i talk for myself here and i already "caps-locked" it (AFAIC) here's why:

M5:
power, luxury, prestige, quality, handling, fun to drive, driver involvement...

for what? Like almost 100k less?

Yeah, thanks, sign me up for an M5 over any S65... any day!

05-03-2006, 05:58 PM	#21 (permalink)
vabboud Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 484 Thanks: 20 Thanked 28 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Car&Driver - S 600 vs. RR Phantom Rolls Royce....if you ask why, you just don't get it! Boz, you've just coined a legendary phrase!

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The Artist Shaolin Shadow Boxer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Gothenburg Posts: 11,442 My Mood: Thanks: 122 Thanked 723 Times in 454 Posts	Re: Car&Driver - S 600 vs. RR Phantom well man you can twist and turn it.. like for example some says that M5 is ultimate performance sedan.. but that could also be BS.. cause if you want a small one RS4 is better and if you want a luxury one S65 is better.. it depends on wich glasses you look at it with.. and i have my MB glasses on all the time..hahah

05-04-2006, 06:57 AM	#26 (permalink)
Bozzor Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sydney (most of the time) Posts: 286 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Car&Driver - S 600 vs. RR Phantom Ha! Here are some more phrases for you guys... Osna, here are some ideas... "The Favacuu. If It Doesn't Blow, It Sucks." "Porsche 911. Because she can't ride the Viagra back home..."

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The Emperor Malicious Persecutor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Where noone has gone before... Posts: 9,144 My Mood: Thanks: 1,411 Thanked 1,572 Times in 953 Posts	Re: Car&Driver - S 600 vs. RR Phantom Since i talk for myself here and i already "caps-locked" it (AFAIC) here's why: M5: power, luxury, prestige, quality, handling, fun to drive, driver involvement... for what? Like almost 100k less? Yeah, thanks, sign me up for an M5 over any S65... any day!

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