Q7 differences from VW and Porsche

Tumbo · 12-13-2005, 05:02 PM

From Automotive News...

"Audi SUV's sourcing is a step away from Porsche, VW versions
Audi is determined to make the Q7 different from its siblings. The Q7 SUV will use the same platform and assembly plant as the Volkswagen Touareg and Porsche Cayenne, but only about 15 percent of the Q7's parts are shared with Porsche and Volkswagen."

Yannis · 12-14-2005, 01:34 AM

Touareg is not using a Torsen based AWD system but a more complicated (and much heavier) system. Q7 uses Torsen C based asymmetrical quattro so it weights less than Touareg and have better on road capabilities.

Just_me · 12-14-2005, 01:40 AM

My question is: Why did it take so long time for Audi to produce a SUV?

Hypersonic · 12-14-2005, 02:04 AM

I know nobody has said anything about it yet, but I think it should just be made clear that Porsche own a 20% stake in VAG, not the other way around, so it must be clear that the Cayenne is not just a VW-based vehicle, it is very much a true Porsche that was made in collaboration with VW. As for the Q7, well who really cares how much it shares with the Touareg and the Cayenne - all three are fantastic SUV's IMO.

Yannis · 12-14-2005, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just_me

My question is: Why did it take so long time for Audi to produce a SUV?

VW had an agreement with Porsche not to make another SUV based on the Cayenne/Touareg platform for at least 3 years. So Audi had to wait 3 years after Touareg and Cayenne were introduced.

Carbon · 12-14-2005, 04:25 AM

Yeah the Toureg and Cayenne probably have a better system for off-roading than the Torsen that will be in the Q7. The Q7 seems to be more of a large crossover than its siblings.

Centurion · 12-14-2005, 07:39 AM

Although all three cars are based on the same platform they are totally different cars. Beside the platsform they have nothing else incommon appart from a few components.

Yannis · 12-14-2005, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carbon

Yeah the Toureg and Cayenne probably have a better system for off-roading than the Torsen that will be in the Q7. The Q7 seems to be more of a large crossover than its siblings.

By using a Torsen based AWD system , Q7 is more on road oriented and also saves a lot of weight (175 kgr lighter than Touareg for some versions)

Brookside · 12-14-2005, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yannis

VW had an agreement with Porsche not to make another SUV based on the Cayenne/Touareg platform for at least 3 years. So Audi had to wait 3 years after Touareg and Cayenne were introduced.

If you're right Yannis, and you usually are concerning all things Audi, then this was a deal with the devil. Here in the U.S. large SUV's are sitting on dealers lots...even tho gas prices are now hovering around a little over $2.00 a gallon,
the perception of gas-guzzlers is that their day is over. Ford and GM are struggling financially in part due to the plumetting sales of what was their very popular line of SUV's.
Certainly Audi will sell the Q7...there's a lot of rich folk out there who can afford this behemoth, but I don't think it'll be in the same numbers as they originally hoped for.
Audi should have rushed the Pikes Peak into production years ago-

warot · 12-14-2005, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James

If you're right Yannis, and you usually are concerning all things Audi, then this was a deal with the devil. Here in the U.S. large SUV's are sitting on dealers lots...even tho gas prices are now hovering around a little over $2.00 a gallon,
the perception of gas-guzzlers is that their day is over. Ford and GM are struggling financially in part due to the plumetting sales of what was their very popular line of SUV's.
Certainly Audi will sell the Q7...there's a lot of rich folk out there who can afford this behemoth, but I don't think it'll be in the same numbers as they originally hoped for.
Audi should have rushed the Pikes Peak into production years ago-

I definitely agree with you James. If the Q7 came out at the same time as the T-reg, it would be definitely a different story I believe. Now, people are moving towards sedan again, rather than a Jeep Grand Cherokee...Also keep in mind that Hybrids are getting a better reputation than SUVs... it's the beginning of a new era, and I'm hoping it's time for diesels in the States.

That's why I laugh at the Hummer H3 ads... those guys must be thinking, damn, we're screwed.

12-13-2005, 05:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
Tumbo Contributor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,676 Thanks: 408 Thanked 298 Times in 144 Posts	Q7 differences from VW and Porsche From Automotive News... "Audi SUV's sourcing is a step away from Porsche, VW versions Audi is determined to make the Q7 different from its siblings. The Q7 SUV will use the same platform and assembly plant as the Volkswagen Touareg and Porsche Cayenne, but only about 15 percent of the Q7's parts are shared with Porsche and Volkswagen."

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Yannis Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 7,198 My Mood: Thanks: 1,243 Thanked 1,229 Times in 701 Posts	Re: Q7 differences from VW and Porsche Touareg is not using a Torsen based AWD system but a more complicated (and much heavier) system. Q7 uses Torsen C based asymmetrical quattro so it weights less than Touareg and have better on road capabilities.

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Just_me Expert Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 12,612 Thanks: 741 Thanked 2,035 Times in 1,028 Posts	Re: Q7 differences from VW and Porsche My question is: Why did it take so long time for Audi to produce a SUV?

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Hypersonic Aficionado Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 5,461 My Mood: Thanks: 941 Thanked 811 Times in 496 Posts	Re: Q7 differences from VW and Porsche I know nobody has said anything about it yet, but I think it should just be made clear that Porsche own a 20% stake in VAG, not the other way around, so it must be clear that the Cayenne is not just a VW-based vehicle, it is very much a true Porsche that was made in collaboration with VW. As for the Q7, well who really cares how much it shares with the Touareg and the Cayenne - all three are fantastic SUV's IMO. Last edited by Hypersonic; 12-14-2005 at 02:26 AM.

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Carbon Advocate Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 795 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Q7 differences from VW and Porsche Yeah the Toureg and Cayenne probably have a better system for off-roading than the Torsen that will be in the Q7. The Q7 seems to be more of a large crossover than its siblings.

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