AUTO SPIES EXCLUSIVE: What's wrong with the new Carrera 4 and C4S?

Just_me · 12-04-2005, 01:23 PM

AUTO SPIES EXCLUSIVE: What's wrong with the new Carrera 4 and C4S?
12/1/2005

Dealers are reporting to the Spies that the launch of the Carrera 4 and C4S is not going as well as thought.

One large west coast dealer who requested anonymity said the reaction by customers has been lukewarm at best.

All Porsche dealers received one 4 and one 4S for the launch (Silver/Black 4, Black/Tan 4S).

Based on a survey of over thirty dealers around the country this week, most retailers have yet to sell either unit.

If you go to Porsche.com and search dealers inventories, you’ll also notice they still have the launch units for sale.

So what’s the problem? Are they bad cars?
Not in the least.

The new C4S is spectacular in our opinion.

We think the problem is that most people who bought the previous generation C4S bought it because of the wide aggressive looking body compared to the 996 C2 and not the AWD capabilities.

Just_me · 12-04-2005, 01:25 PM

Not that I trust Autospies.

Centurion · 12-04-2005, 01:25 PM

They should change name to auto-bullshiter. Some of their news and opinions are very stupid.

Yannis · 12-04-2005, 01:26 PM

This is BS... The car has been launched for a short period of time and it's too early to tell...

Alx · 12-04-2005, 01:28 PM

Though i like it, the car is hard to swallow, the 996 looks better imo, and perhaps people feel the same way, plus it is just out... takes some time.

Centurion · 12-04-2005, 01:32 PM

Yeah some people do think that the 996 C4 looks better than the new C4 since it looks more aggresive than the normal 966. Unlike the 997 c4 which doesn't look any different to a 9997 s if you fail to notice the 3.4 inch wider rear.

Alx · 12-04-2005, 01:59 PM

It could be a major down side... perhaps it is affecting the sales. But Porsche people do not just jump on th efirst thing out, they keep their cars and buy new ones whne they feel its time, not just becasue its new on the market...

Imhotep Evil · 12-05-2005, 05:46 AM

Too early to tell, nevertheless the lack of agresivity is Porsches weak point IMO.
Even the RUF, looks more like Herbie the VW BUG, than a "deriere" kicking super sport car. Heck even the CGT could have been made more agresive.

martinbo · 12-05-2005, 07:18 AM

Porsche are above all about function overcoming form. The smooth teardrop formula of the 911 is hallowed stuff to the Porsche afficionado.

Furthermore to a real Porschephile the runny egg lights were deplorable and the pinched 911 turbo units mildly better. A 997 Carrera with round lights is the best looking 911 ever. Somethings just don't need changing. Long live the classic 911 recipe!

Now then where's that pesky Artist's signature when you need it?

12-04-2005, 01:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
Just_me Expert Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 12,612 Thanks: 741 Thanked 2,035 Times in 1,028 Posts	AUTO SPIES EXCLUSIVE: What's wrong with the new Carrera 4 and C4S? AUTO SPIES EXCLUSIVE: What's wrong with the new Carrera 4 and C4S? 12/1/2005 Dealers are reporting to the Spies that the launch of the Carrera 4 and C4S is not going as well as thought. One large west coast dealer who requested anonymity said the reaction by customers has been lukewarm at best. All Porsche dealers received one 4 and one 4S for the launch (Silver/Black 4, Black/Tan 4S). Based on a survey of over thirty dealers around the country this week, most retailers have yet to sell either unit. If you go to Porsche.com and search dealers inventories, you’ll also notice they still have the launch units for sale. So what’s the problem? Are they bad cars? Not in the least. The new C4S is spectacular in our opinion. We think the problem is that most people who bought the previous generation C4S bought it because of the wide aggressive looking body compared to the 996 C2 and not the AWD capabilities.

12-04-2005, 01:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
Just_me Expert Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 12,612 Thanks: 741 Thanked 2,035 Times in 1,028 Posts	Re: AUTO SPIES EXCLUSIVE: What's wrong with the new Carrera 4 and C4S? Not that I trust Autospies.

12-04-2005, 01:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
Centurion Trendsetter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 7,075 Thanks: 595 Thanked 724 Times in 422 Posts	Re: AUTO SPIES EXCLUSIVE: What's wrong with the new Carrera 4 and C4S? They should change name to auto-bullshiter. Some of their news and opinions are very stupid.

12-04-2005, 01:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
Yannis Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 7,198 My Mood: Thanks: 1,243 Thanked 1,231 Times in 703 Posts	Re: AUTO SPIES EXCLUSIVE: What's wrong with the new Carrera 4 and C4S? This is BS... The car has been launched for a short period of time and it's too early to tell...

12-04-2005, 01:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
Alx 007 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: -Poconos, PA.- 2005 Aston Martin DB9 Posts: 5,458 My Mood: Thanks: 886 Thanked 551 Times in 224 Posts	Re: AUTO SPIES EXCLUSIVE: What's wrong with the new Carrera 4 and C4S? Though i like it, the car is hard to swallow, the 996 looks better imo, and perhaps people feel the same way, plus it is just out... takes some time.

12-04-2005, 01:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
Centurion Trendsetter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 7,075 Thanks: 595 Thanked 724 Times in 422 Posts	Re: AUTO SPIES EXCLUSIVE: What's wrong with the new Carrera 4 and C4S? Yeah some people do think that the 996 C4 looks better than the new C4 since it looks more aggresive than the normal 966. Unlike the 997 c4 which doesn't look any different to a 9997 s if you fail to notice the 3.4 inch wider rear.

12-04-2005, 01:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
Alx 007 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: -Poconos, PA.- 2005 Aston Martin DB9 Posts: 5,458 My Mood: Thanks: 886 Thanked 551 Times in 224 Posts	Re: AUTO SPIES EXCLUSIVE: What's wrong with the new Carrera 4 and C4S? It could be a major down side... perhaps it is affecting the sales. But Porsche people do not just jump on th efirst thing out, they keep their cars and buy new ones whne they feel its time, not just becasue its new on the market...

12-05-2005, 05:46 AM	#8 (permalink)
Imhotep Evil Devotee Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,898 Thanks: 256 Thanked 154 Times in 116 Posts	Re: AUTO SPIES EXCLUSIVE: What's wrong with the new Carrera 4 and C4S? Too early to tell, nevertheless the lack of agresivity is Porsches weak point IMO. Even the RUF, looks more like Herbie the VW BUG, than a "deriere" kicking super sport car. Heck even the CGT could have been made more agresive.

12-05-2005, 07:18 AM	#9 (permalink)
martinbo Fanatic Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Johannesburg Posts: 1,250 Thanks: 136 Thanked 202 Times in 114 Posts	Re: AUTO SPIES EXCLUSIVE: What's wrong with the new Carrera 4 and C4S? Porsche are above all about function overcoming form. The smooth teardrop formula of the 911 is hallowed stuff to the Porsche afficionado. Furthermore to a real Porschephile the runny egg lights were deplorable and the pinched 911 turbo units mildly better. A 997 Carrera with round lights is the best looking 911 ever. Somethings just don't need changing. Long live the classic 911 recipe! Now then where's that pesky Artist's signature when you need it?

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