Dear Volkswagen - give the little Fox a Foxy attitude!

Kowalski · 03-17-2007, 09:18 PM

I drove a Fox 1.2 3-Cylinder 54 Bhp yesterday, and I just could not believe how painfully underpowered the car is. First gear does not pull until around 3000 Rpm, leading to some suicidal moments at junctions. It only pulls up hills in FIRST GEAR! The combination of 54 Bhp in a car that weighs 1070 Kilograms, make overtaking a very dangerous and ill-advised gamble!

Please Volkswagen! Kill the 1.2 3-Cylinder 6 Valve once and for all! IT'S A HEAP OF CACK AND YOU KNOW IT! Heck! Even your dealers hate this engine, and they are always advising people to not bother with it and go straight for the 1.4.

The Brazilian Fox is available with a 1.6 8 Valve 96 Bhp engine. Since the Fox is imported from Brazil, I reckon it would not be that difficult for Volkswagen to import the Fox with this engine as well.

How about a sporty Fox?

-Here it is the Fox Pepper Concept created by Volkswagen do Brazil.

It was powered by a 1.0 16V Turbo 120 Bhp engine. 0 to 100 Km/h in 8,5 seconds and top speed of 125 Mph. Sadly it was just a Concept that never made to the production line.

But can you imagine what a hoot to drive, a sporty Volkswagen Fox would be?

phaeton · 03-18-2007, 04:14 AM

I remember shortly after Fox launch in Europe GCF had pics of a Fox Sport but nothing ever came which is a shame because the Lupo GTI was well loved and needed a successor

As for Fox in Europe VW don't make money due to the Brazilian Real being against Euro.

So as soon as this Fox has finished its cycle don't expect another on from Brazil

rev · 03-24-2007, 09:53 AM

I don't think that engine is totally rubbish. I mean, it's only a city car, meant for use in urban areas. I don't believe it's made for high speed overtaking on the highway.

Giannis · 03-24-2007, 01:16 PM

You are not absolutely right rev8000!
Imagine you drive in the city, in an empty straight road, or want to hurry so you can catch the green light... It will be as fast as a turtle. Absolutely no speeding. Just imagine you driving downtown in Athens at about 3am. There is when you need HP

rev · 03-25-2007, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giannis

You are not absolutely right rev8000!
Just imagine you driving downtown in Athens at about 3am. There is when you need HP

In that case, I would probably drive a Golf GTI.

BMW_Dude · 04-02-2007, 05:38 AM

Remember for young buyers, the small engine is important for cheap insurance!

Also, I think the Polo GTI answers the performance small car question!

rev · 04-03-2007, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMW_Dude

Remember for young buyers, the small engine is important for cheap insurance!

Also, I think the Polo GTI answers the performance small car question!

Exactly!

03-17-2007, 09:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
Kowalski Advocate Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 653 Thanks: 191 Thanked 293 Times in 158 Posts	Dear Volkswagen. Give the little Fox a Foxy attitude! The 1.2 3-cylinder is rubbish! I drove a Fox 1.2 3-Cylinder 54 Bhp yesterday, and I just could not believe how painfully underpowered the car is. First gear does not pull until around 3000 Rpm, leading to some suicidal moments at junctions. It only pulls up hills in FIRST GEAR! The combination of 54 Bhp in a car that weighs 1070 Kilograms, make overtaking a very dangerous and ill-advised gamble! Please Volkswagen! Kill the 1.2 3-Cylinder 6 Valve once and for all! IT'S A HEAP OF CACK AND YOU KNOW IT! Heck! Even your dealers hate this engine, and they are always advising people to not bother with it and go straight for the 1.4. The Brazilian Fox is available with a 1.6 8 Valve 96 Bhp engine. Since the Fox is imported from Brazil, I reckon it would not be that difficult for Volkswagen to import the Fox with this engine as well. How about a sporty Fox? -Here it is the Fox Pepper Concept created by Volkswagen do Brazil. It was powered by a 1.0 16V Turbo 120 Bhp engine. 0 to 100 Km/h in 8,5 seconds and top speed of 125 Mph. Sadly it was just a Concept that never made to the production line. But can you imagine what a hoot to drive, a sporty Volkswagen Fox would be? Last edited by Kowalski; 03-17-2007 at 11:03 PM.

03-18-2007, 04:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
phaeton Contributor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Australia - South Australia Posts: 1,165 Thanks: 1,040 Thanked 453 Times in 244 Posts	Re: Dear Volkswagen. Give the little Fox a Foxy attitude! The 1.2 3-cylinder is rubbi I remember shortly after Fox launch in Europe GCF had pics of a Fox Sport but nothing ever came which is a shame because the Lupo GTI was well loved and needed a successor As for Fox in Europe VW don't make money due to the Brazilian Real being against Euro. So as soon as this Fox has finished its cycle don't expect another on from Brazil

03-24-2007, 09:53 AM	#3 (permalink)
rev Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Greece Posts: 387 Thanks: 183 Thanked 92 Times in 63 Posts	Re: Dear Volkswagen - give the little Fox a Foxy attitude! I don't think that engine is totally rubbish. I mean, it's only a city car, meant for use in urban areas. I don't believe it's made for high speed overtaking on the highway.

03-24-2007, 01:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Giannis Devotee Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Patra, Greece Posts: 3,489 Thanks: 140 Thanked 217 Times in 165 Posts	Re: Dear Volkswagen - give the little Fox a Foxy attitude! You are not absolutely right rev8000! Imagine you drive in the city, in an empty straight road, or want to hurry so you can catch the green light... It will be as fast as a turtle. Absolutely no speeding. Just imagine you driving downtown in Athens at about 3am. There is when you need HP

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