Skoda beats Porsche, BMW, Mercedes and Jaguar in car poll.

Yannis · 11-03-2005, 04:50 AM

Czech car Skoda beats Porsche, BMW Mercs and Jaguar in car poll

Contrary to the general impression, Czech car company 'Skoda' has beaten popular car majors like Porshe, BMW, Jaguar, according to a poll on the UK's best motors conducted by BBC Top Gear magazine.

According to the survey which covered a total of 159 cars, the Czech firm came second to Lexus in a list of manufacturers, while Porsche, Jaguar and BMW were placed eighth, ninth and tenth in the makers league, Mercedes was surprisingly a lowly 32nd.

Skoda's 'Superb', 'Octavia' and 'Fabia' models were named fourth, fifth and ninth.

The top model was the sporty Honda S2000, with the Lexus IS200/300 models second and the Lexus RX third, while the worst car was the Peugeot 807.

The readers' favourite manufacturer was Lexus, followed by Skoda, Honda, Mazda and Toyota.

According to the survey, the top ten cars are: Honda S2000, Lexus RX300, Lexus IS200/300, Skoda Superb, Honda Jazz, Honda Accord, Subaru Legacy, Skoda Fabia, Skoda Octavia, Subaru Forester.

And the ten worst cars are: Peugeot 807, Renault Espace, Renault Laguna, Mercedes M-Class, Peugeot 307, Fiat Stilo, Rover 25, Renault Megane, Peugeot 206, Citroen Xsara.

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Merc1 · 11-03-2005, 04:59 AM

It doesn't say what the survey is based on? Just who is the most popular?

M

Centurion · 11-03-2005, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merc1

It doesn't say what the survey is based on? Just who is the most popular?

M

Yeah so don't care so much for it. Thanks for sharing Yannis

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Harry Plopper · 11-03-2005, 06:33 AM

Yeah, sure. The owners of luxury cars are surely going to participate in Top Gear's poll.

Common participants in a poll give common results.

Yannis · 11-03-2005, 08:16 AM

Another article with more details:

Czech firm beats Porsche, BMW Mercs and Jags in best car poll

SKODA cars - once the laughing stock of the industry - have beaten Porsche, BMW and Jaguar in a poll of the UK's best motors.

The Czech firm came second to Lexus in a list of manufacturers. Porsche, Jaguar and BMW were eighth, ninth and 10th in the makers league while Mercedes was a lowly 32nd.

Not one them was in the top 10 cars, but the Skoda Superb, Octavia and Fabia models were named fourth, fifth and ninth.

A total of 159 cars featured in the BBC Top Gear magazine satisfaction survey of 76,000 UK readers. Eleven of the bottom 20 models were French with Peugeot, Renault and Citroen in the bottom four in the manufacturers list.

The top model was the sporty Honda S2000, with the Lexus IS200/300 models second and the Lexus RX third.

The worst car was the Peugeot 807, with the Peugeot 307 in 158th place, the Renault Espace 157th and the Renault Laguna 156th. The readers' favourite manufacturer was Lexus, followed by Skoda, Honda, Mazda and Toyota.

Peugeot took 36th and last place, with Fiat 35th, Renault 34th and Citroen 33rd.

BBC Top Gear magazine editor Michael Harvey said: "The top car once more - the Honda S2000 - costs around £27,000. You don't get to see too many on the road, but when you do, the driver's always wearing a smug grin.

"That's thanks to this sports car's unbeatable combination of screaming performance, rock-solid reliability and built-in individuality.

"French automobiles have taken one hell of a beating this year, but with over 76,000 people taking part, this is the most valid set of car opinions you can get."

Other well-known makers who did not fare well were Volkswagen in 21st place, Rover 22nd, Ford 25th and Vauxhall 27th.

THE TOP TEN CARS
1. Honda S2000
2. Lexus IS200/300
3. Lexus RX300
4. Skoda Superb
6. Honda Jazz
7. Honda Accord
8. Subaru Legacy
9. Skoda Fabia
5. Skoda Octavia
10. Subaru Forester

AND THE TEN WORST...
1. Peugeot 807
2. Peugeot 307
3. Renault Espace
4. Renault Laguna
5. Mercedes M-Class
6. Fiat Stilo
7. Rover 25
8. Renault Megane
9. Peugeot 206
10. Citroen Xsara

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The Emperor · 11-03-2005, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yannis

AND THE TEN WORST...
1. Peugeot 807
2. Peugeot 307
3. Renault Espace
4. Renault Laguna
5. Mercedes M-Class
6. Fiat Stilo
7. Rover 25
8. Renault Megane
9. Peugeot 206
10. Citroen Xsara[/i]

Oh $h!t! M class rated as worst together with some crappy French cars?

But that means nothing!

Yannis · 11-03-2005, 11:06 AM

Peugeot,Renault, Citroen all are there.

Nice going for French cars. Always manage to be last in reliability. That's not an easy task to achieve.

Kudos to French car industry for making the crappiest cars of Europe.

cawimmer430 · 11-04-2005, 06:19 PM

I don't get it, what's the old M-Class doing there? ADAC rated it as the "most reliable SUV" in Europe and now here it's rated as unreliable? I know the W163 didn't have a very glorious history but this "poll" is confusing.

Yannis · 11-04-2005, 11:00 PM

Mercedes was 32nd? Not good...

I wonder how Audi did, they don't mention anything.

Yannis · 11-04-2005, 11:11 PM

I just found the complete list:

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Audi is on 12 place , two places below BMW.

11-03-2005, 04:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
Yannis Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 7,198 My Mood: Thanks: 1,243 Thanked 1,229 Times in 701 Posts	Skoda beats Porsche, BMW, Mercedes and Jaguar in car poll. Czech car Skoda beats Porsche, BMW Mercs and Jaguar in car poll Contrary to the general impression, Czech car company 'Skoda' has beaten popular car majors like Porshe, BMW, Jaguar, according to a poll on the UK's best motors conducted by BBC Top Gear magazine. According to the survey which covered a total of 159 cars, the Czech firm came second to Lexus in a list of manufacturers, while Porsche, Jaguar and BMW were placed eighth, ninth and tenth in the makers league, Mercedes was surprisingly a lowly 32nd. Skoda's 'Superb', 'Octavia' and 'Fabia' models were named fourth, fifth and ninth. The top model was the sporty Honda S2000, with the Lexus IS200/300 models second and the Lexus RX third, while the worst car was the Peugeot 807. The readers' favourite manufacturer was Lexus, followed by Skoda, Honda, Mazda and Toyota. According to the survey, the top ten cars are: Honda S2000, Lexus RX300, Lexus IS200/300, Skoda Superb, Honda Jazz, Honda Accord, Subaru Legacy, Skoda Fabia, Skoda Octavia, Subaru Forester. And the ten worst cars are: Peugeot 807, Renault Espace, Renault Laguna, Mercedes M-Class, Peugeot 307, Fiat Stilo, Rover 25, Renault Megane, Peugeot 206, Citroen Xsara. Source: - ONLY REGISTERED AND ACTIVATED USERS CAN SEE ALL LINKS - CLICK HERE TO REGISTER Last edited by Yannis; 11-03-2005 at 08:12 AM.

11-03-2005, 04:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
Merc1 Contributor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Aurora IL USA Posts: 4,955 Thanks: 363 Thanked 672 Times in 346 Posts	Re: Skoda beats Porsche, BMW, Mercedes and Jaguar in car poll. It doesn't say what the survey is based on? Just who is the most popular? M

11-03-2005, 06:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
Harry Plopper Oinky Wizard Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,746 Thanks: 76 Thanked 902 Times in 466 Posts	Re: Skoda beats Porsche, BMW, Mercedes and Jaguar in car poll. Yeah, sure. The owners of luxury cars are surely going to participate in Top Gear's poll. Common participants in a poll give common results.

11-03-2005, 08:16 AM	#5 (permalink)
Yannis Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 7,198 My Mood: Thanks: 1,243 Thanked 1,229 Times in 701 Posts	Re: Skoda beats Porsche, BMW, Mercedes and Jaguar in car poll. Another article with more details: Czech firm beats Porsche, BMW Mercs and Jags in best car poll SKODA cars - once the laughing stock of the industry - have beaten Porsche, BMW and Jaguar in a poll of the UK's best motors. The Czech firm came second to Lexus in a list of manufacturers. Porsche, Jaguar and BMW were eighth, ninth and 10th in the makers league while Mercedes was a lowly 32nd. Not one them was in the top 10 cars, but the Skoda Superb, Octavia and Fabia models were named fourth, fifth and ninth. A total of 159 cars featured in the BBC Top Gear magazine satisfaction survey of 76,000 UK readers. Eleven of the bottom 20 models were French with Peugeot, Renault and Citroen in the bottom four in the manufacturers list. The top model was the sporty Honda S2000, with the Lexus IS200/300 models second and the Lexus RX third. The worst car was the Peugeot 807, with the Peugeot 307 in 158th place, the Renault Espace 157th and the Renault Laguna 156th. The readers' favourite manufacturer was Lexus, followed by Skoda, Honda, Mazda and Toyota. Peugeot took 36th and last place, with Fiat 35th, Renault 34th and Citroen 33rd. BBC Top Gear magazine editor Michael Harvey said: "The top car once more - the Honda S2000 - costs around £27,000. You don't get to see too many on the road, but when you do, the driver's always wearing a smug grin. "That's thanks to this sports car's unbeatable combination of screaming performance, rock-solid reliability and built-in individuality. "French automobiles have taken one hell of a beating this year, but with over 76,000 people taking part, this is the most valid set of car opinions you can get." Other well-known makers who did not fare well were Volkswagen in 21st place, Rover 22nd, Ford 25th and Vauxhall 27th. THE TOP TEN CARS 1. Honda S2000 2. Lexus IS200/300 3. Lexus RX300 4. Skoda Superb 6. Honda Jazz 7. Honda Accord 8. Subaru Legacy 9. Skoda Fabia 5. Skoda Octavia 10. Subaru Forester AND THE TEN WORST... 1. Peugeot 807 2. Peugeot 307 3. Renault Espace 4. Renault Laguna 5. Mercedes M-Class 6. Fiat Stilo 7. Rover 25 8. Renault Megane 9. Peugeot 206 10. Citroen Xsara Source: - ONLY REGISTERED AND ACTIVATED USERS CAN SEE ALL LINKS - CLICK HERE TO REGISTER

11-03-2005, 11:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
Yannis Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 7,198 My Mood: Thanks: 1,243 Thanked 1,229 Times in 701 Posts	Re: Skoda beats Porsche, BMW, Mercedes and Jaguar in car poll. Peugeot,Renault, Citroen all are there. Nice going for French cars. Always manage to be last in reliability. That's not an easy task to achieve. Kudos to French car industry for making the crappiest cars of Europe.

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cawimmer430 Contributor Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Mühldorf am Inn, Germany Posts: 6,249 Thanks: 2,362 Thanked 1,733 Times in 829 Posts	Re: Skoda beats Porsche, BMW, Mercedes and Jaguar in car poll. I don't get it, what's the old M-Class doing there? ADAC rated it as the "most reliable SUV" in Europe and now here it's rated as unreliable? I know the W163 didn't have a very glorious history but this "poll" is confusing.

11-04-2005, 11:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
Yannis Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 7,198 My Mood: Thanks: 1,243 Thanked 1,229 Times in 701 Posts	Re: Skoda beats Porsche, BMW, Mercedes and Jaguar in car poll. Mercedes was 32nd? Not good... I wonder how Audi did, they don't mention anything.

11-04-2005, 11:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
Yannis Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 7,198 My Mood: Thanks: 1,243 Thanked 1,229 Times in 701 Posts	Re: Skoda beats Porsche, BMW, Mercedes and Jaguar in car poll. I just found the complete list: - ONLY REGISTERED AND ACTIVATED USERS CAN SEE ALL LINKS - CLICK HERE TO REGISTER Audi is on 12 place , two places below BMW.

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