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View Poll Results: Is ZO6 a Supercar?
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:15 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Zo6

No. This is quite a common debate. the vette is actually on the list of "disputed supercars" on wikipedia.
Here's the current list they have for "Supercars" for cars made after 2000
2000s Supercars

* Ascari KZ1
* Audi R8
* Bugatti Veyron[9]
* B Engineering Edonis
* Ferrari Enzo[10]
* Ford GT
* Gumpert Apollo
* Hulme F1
* Koenigsegg CC
* Koenigsegg CC8S
* Koenigsegg CCR
* Koenigsegg CCX[11]
* Lamborghini Murciélago[12]
* Maserati MC12
* Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren
* Mitsuoka Orochi
* Mosler MT900
* Pagani Zonda C12 S 7.3
* Pagani Zonda F "C12 F"
* Porsche Carrera GT
* Saleen S7
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:59 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: Zo6

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But in Europe it goes for 120-200k(euro or american not sure)
FYI, the Z06 is a tad over 80,000 Euros.
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Old 10-09-2006, 08:04 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: Zo6

LOL, they call the R8 a supercar on Wiki?

Give me a break, lol...... 420 hp V8 in a 1500 kg car.....
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:00 PM   #24 (permalink)
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LOL, they call the R8 a supercar on Wiki?

Give me a break, lol...... 420 hp V8 in a 1500 kg car.....
No dought that one from the list struck me the most
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Old 10-16-2006, 05:25 PM   #25 (permalink)
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It's fast. Nuff said?
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Old 10-16-2006, 08:46 PM   #26 (permalink)
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It's fast. Nuff said?
Yeah but not fast enough. So what now u think the M6 is a supercar?
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Old 10-16-2006, 09:38 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Re: Zo6

I think cars the R8, Ford GT and even the NSX, all have the trappings of a Supercar. Sure, they may be outperformed by some some "non-supercars", like the Z06, but still sport a platform that is "bespoke and visually decadent." And when I say decadent, I mean car porn, not decadent in the sense of exotic materials and custom-dyed leather.

In my book, a real supercar can't be extracted from a doner car. So cars like the Z06, M5 and even the GT3 don't qualify, no matter how drop-dead awesome they may be. The R8 is certainly the lower-rung of the supercar club, but it has all the requisite supercar ingredients, and has enough performance to back up its exotic pretensions.

To me, cars like the Zonda, Veyron and Enzo are true supercars. But their performance and pricetags are so outrageous I feel like they belong to another class altogether.

So Z06 - awesome as it may be - is in league with cars like the Turbo, GT3 or M6. If the Corvette line was restricted exclusively to the Z06 trim I might reevaluate my answer...

EDIT - Come think, maybe not. One more dimention to supercar status is a reasonably stiff barrier of entry, which the Z06 doesn't have in the US. Six figures is my personal starting point. The R8 really skims close to the edge here, but I think pulls it off with a package that's convincingly exotic.
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Old 10-17-2006, 11:03 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Re: Zo6

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For me there are two categories:

Supercars:

C6 Z06
F430
997 Turbo
Gallardo


And then

Exotics:

Zonda F
Carrera GT
Enzo
LP640



Well said 7.3AMG, I completely agree with you and the other good IQ dudes who use their intellect! j/k Anyway you nailed the catagory in the head here. You don`t have to be ultra expensive with drop-dead looks to be a supercar, thats exotic-car territory.

Supercars are all about ultra-performance first, hence the name. Everything else is secondary. I voted yes! Heck, even the Ford GT is a supercar.
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Old 10-19-2006, 01:58 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Re: Zo6

First and foremost, the term "supercar" should be defined, and I don't think it is going to be defined the same today as it was back 15 years go. Ferrari ultimately has been the super car, followed by Lamborghini. However, I think in the late 20th century, and early 21st century we saw a change in what a supercar is. We have the M3, M5, RS4, E55, etc. that all have super car speeds and stuff. So, saying that a super car was the fastest no longer holds. Also, defining them as ultimately so luxurious that no one could compare them is also false. I think supercar is a very vague term.


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*It lacks the quality of a super car
How does it lack the quality? What do you mean by quality? I think the interior quality of the Z06 is better than that of the Enzo, if one were to consider the Enzo a supercar. Take a look at how stripped the enzo is, and then compare it to all the amenities that the Z06 has.

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*It doesn't have the drop dead gorgeous and head turning looks
My friend, I don't know how to say this, but, this is a subjective comment. I think this lies with the eye of the beholder. Also, supercars are don't have to be "drop dead gorgeous."

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*I have to admit that it is one hell of a performer but the performance isn't top notch.
What!?!?! The 0-60 time on this thing is in the 3's. Please lookhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=0-60+for+2006+z06
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Old 10-19-2006, 02:23 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Re: Zo6

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It's fast. Nuff said?
A Mitsubishi Lancer Evo is fast. Does that make it a supercar?

This thread has been interesting to follow. As for the term 'supercar', it was originally coined by CAR magazine, and they had a nice article about what it takes to be a supercar a few issues ago... IIRC cars like the Z06 didn't make it.
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