German sales January to September 2005.

Yannis · 10-27-2005, 04:17 AM

- Entry luxury class-
1. Audi A4/S4: 73.843 Autos
2. BMW 3er: 66.224 Autos
3. VW Passat: 62.346 Autos
4. Mercedes C-Klasse: 59.251 Autos

-Middle luxury class-
1. Mercedes E-Klasse: 47.224 Autos
2. BMW 5er: 46.853 Autos
3. Audi A6/S6: 45.984 Autos

-Upper luxury class-
1. Mercedes CLS: 6.170 Autos
2. BMW 7er: 4.615 Autos
3. Audi A8/S8: 3.867 Autos
4. Mercedes S-Klasse: 3.837 Autos
5. Porsche 911: 3.242 Autos
6. VW Phaeton: 2.426 Autos
7. BMW 6er: 1.315 Autos

- SUVs -
BMW X3: 16.246 Autos
VW Touareg: 13.256 Autos
BMW X5: 10.948 Autos
Mercedes ML-Klasse: 7.690 Autos

-Cabrio/roadster-
Mercedes SLK: 15.280 Autos
BMW Mini: 7.524 Autos
BMW 3er: 6.375 Autos
BMW Z4: 6.374 Autos
VW New Beetle: 5.966 Autos
Audi A4/S4: 4.778 Autos

-Minivans-
VW Touran: 59.371 Autos
Seat Altea/Toledo: 21.513 Autos
Mercedes B-Klasse: 18.048 Autos
VW Sharan: 11.286 Autos

-Transporter-
VW Transporter: 28.001 Autos
VW Caddy: 15.404 Autos
Mercedes Vito/Viano: 8.598 Autos
Mercedes Sprinter: 4.062 Autos

Source: KBA

Just_me · 10-27-2005, 04:27 AM

No numbers for 1-serie, A3 and A-class?

Yannis · 10-27-2005, 04:34 AM

Sorry i forgot that.

Here it is:

1. VW Golf/Jetta: 182.865 Autos
2. Opel Astra: 94.687 Autos
3. Mercedes A-Klasse: 67.540 Autos
4. Ford Focus: 57.894 Autos
5. Audi A3/S3: 49.614 Autos
6. BMW 1er: 42.034 Autos
7. Skoda Octavia: 37.215 Autos

The Emperor · 10-27-2005, 04:43 AM

Very good, for all of them. Hehe, i knew that SLK will outsell the Z4, i knew it! And beliebe it or not, i'm glad about it. Time for some people from BMW to do something better with Z4, not only to put M3's engine inside and a M logo. FACELIFT PLEASE!!!

Kleemann_SL · 10-27-2005, 05:17 AM

Im very satisfied with these results, the E class sold more than the 5

even with all those problems!!! I never expected that!!

With the C-Class, its normal cause the car is getting very old, and looks very outdated!

And look at the upper luxury's, the CLS sold the most (the biggest proof how sexy the car really is

) Oops the 6er is suffering there below!! EVEN THE PHAETON SOLD MORE!! 7er is doing great!

Nevertheless I expected the A8 to sell more. The numbers for the S are normal IMO...

BMW X3 should sell more with that price-category! The X5, with that old design is still doing very well!! And I still like that car

We will see the real succes of the new ML comming months...

SLK sold dubble of MINI!!!

The car is very cool!! But I feel very bad for the CLK Cabrio!!

Whats happend with it!!

The Artist · 10-27-2005, 05:33 AM

Wow looking good for MB..

PS
What the fck is up with the GOLF it sells like its for free or something.. that car is pretty expensive.. man near 200K cars per month..thats crazy

The Emperor · 10-27-2005, 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Artist

Wow looking good for MB..

PS
What the fck is up with the GOLF it sells like its for free or something.. that car is pretty expensive.. man near 200K cars per month..thats crazy

The new Golf V is a very good car and worth of money. I'm paying 25k for my wifes 2.0TDi Sportline with following:

Climatronic (dual ac)
ESP
8 Airbags
CD changer with 10 speakers
16" alloy wheels with Bridgestone tyres 225/55
Sport seats
Remote lock
El. windows
BC
Tinted windows
140 hp, V-max 220

What else do you want in a GOLF?

Yannis · 10-27-2005, 06:16 AM

Golf is easily the best car in it's class believe me cause i have "studied" the competition (Astra, Focus ect.). The rivals sell cheaper cause they don't have the overall quality of a VW. the paint is the best among the non luxury brands, the seats have the best support and are the most comfortable for long trips (even in my wife's Polo i have sat for 5 hours driving without feeling tired unlike any other car in the segment) ect.
VW means quality with capital letters. And i hope noone mentions reliability cause again compared to French and American (Opel, Ford) competition , Golf is still much better (although not as good as Honda or Toyota which on the other hand are very basic and cheap in built materials).

Merc1 · 10-27-2005, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yannis

Golf is easily the best car in it's class believe me cause i have "studied" the competition (Astra, Focus ect.). The rivals sell cheaper cause they don't have the overall quality of a VW. the paint is the best among the non luxury brands, the seats have the best support and are the most comfortable for long trips (even in my wife's Polo i have sat for 5 hours driving without feeling tired unlike any other car in the segment) ect.
VW means quality with capital letters. And i hope noone mentions reliability cause again compared to French and American (Opel, Ford) competition , Golf is still much better (although not as good as Honda or Toyota which on the other hand are very basic and cheap in built materials).

Very well put. Here in the U.S. that is true also, but VW's prices and their reliablity hold them back big time. We American (excluding me of course) aren't as astute when it comes to cars.

M

Carbon · 10-27-2005, 06:27 AM

Look at the entry luxury class with the A4 and the Passat and the compact class or w/e with the Golf and the A3. I guess a company offering two models in the same class that compete with each other isn't such a bad idea after all. VAG seems to know what it's doing.

10-27-2005, 04:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
Yannis Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 7,198 My Mood: Thanks: 1,243 Thanked 1,231 Times in 703 Posts	German sales January to September 2005. - Entry luxury class- 1. Audi A4/S4: 73.843 Autos 2. BMW 3er: 66.224 Autos 3. VW Passat: 62.346 Autos 4. Mercedes C-Klasse: 59.251 Autos -Middle luxury class- 1. Mercedes E-Klasse: 47.224 Autos 2. BMW 5er: 46.853 Autos 3. Audi A6/S6: 45.984 Autos -Upper luxury class- 1. Mercedes CLS: 6.170 Autos 2. BMW 7er: 4.615 Autos 3. Audi A8/S8: 3.867 Autos 4. Mercedes S-Klasse: 3.837 Autos 5. Porsche 911: 3.242 Autos 6. VW Phaeton: 2.426 Autos 7. BMW 6er: 1.315 Autos - SUVs - BMW X3: 16.246 Autos VW Touareg: 13.256 Autos BMW X5: 10.948 Autos Mercedes ML-Klasse: 7.690 Autos -Cabrio/roadster- Mercedes SLK: 15.280 Autos BMW Mini: 7.524 Autos BMW 3er: 6.375 Autos BMW Z4: 6.374 Autos VW New Beetle: 5.966 Autos Audi A4/S4: 4.778 Autos -Minivans- VW Touran: 59.371 Autos Seat Altea/Toledo: 21.513 Autos Mercedes B-Klasse: 18.048 Autos VW Sharan: 11.286 Autos -Transporter- VW Transporter: 28.001 Autos VW Caddy: 15.404 Autos Mercedes Vito/Viano: 8.598 Autos Mercedes Sprinter: 4.062 Autos Source: KBA

10-27-2005, 04:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
Just_me Expert Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 12,612 Thanks: 741 Thanked 2,035 Times in 1,028 Posts	Re: German sales January to September 2005. No numbers for 1-serie, A3 and A-class?

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Yannis Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 7,198 My Mood: Thanks: 1,243 Thanked 1,231 Times in 703 Posts	Re: German sales January to September 2005. Sorry i forgot that. Here it is: 1. VW Golf/Jetta: 182.865 Autos 2. Opel Astra: 94.687 Autos 3. Mercedes A-Klasse: 67.540 Autos 4. Ford Focus: 57.894 Autos 5. Audi A3/S3: 49.614 Autos 6. BMW 1er: 42.034 Autos 7. Skoda Octavia: 37.215 Autos

10-27-2005, 04:43 AM	#4 (permalink)
The Emperor Bionic Jive Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Where noone has gone before... Posts: 9,163 My Mood: Thanks: 1,423 Thanked 1,588 Times in 963 Posts	Re: German sales January to September 2005. Very good, for all of them. Hehe, i knew that SLK will outsell the Z4, i knew it! And beliebe it or not, i'm glad about it. Time for some people from BMW to do something better with Z4, not only to put M3's engine inside and a M logo. FACELIFT PLEASE!!!

10-27-2005, 05:17 AM	#5 (permalink)
Kleemann_SL Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 481 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: German sales January to September 2005. Im very satisfied with these results, the E class sold more than the 5 even with all those problems!!! I never expected that!! With the C-Class, its normal cause the car is getting very old, and looks very outdated! And look at the upper luxury's, the CLS sold the most (the biggest proof how sexy the car really is ) Oops the 6er is suffering there below!! EVEN THE PHAETON SOLD MORE!! 7er is doing great! Nevertheless I expected the A8 to sell more. The numbers for the S are normal IMO... BMW X3 should sell more with that price-category! The X5, with that old design is still doing very well!! And I still like that car We will see the real succes of the new ML comming months... SLK sold dubble of MINI!!! The car is very cool!! But I feel very bad for the CLK Cabrio!! Whats happend with it!!

10-27-2005, 05:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
The Artist Shaolin Shadow Boxer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Gothenburg Posts: 11,512 My Mood: Thanks: 127 Thanked 768 Times in 484 Posts	Re: German sales January to September 2005. Wow looking good for MB.. PS What the fck is up with the GOLF it sells like its for free or something.. that car is pretty expensive.. man near 200K cars per month..thats crazy

10-27-2005, 06:16 AM	#8 (permalink)
Yannis Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 7,198 My Mood: Thanks: 1,243 Thanked 1,231 Times in 703 Posts	Re: German sales January to September 2005. Golf is easily the best car in it's class believe me cause i have "studied" the competition (Astra, Focus ect.). The rivals sell cheaper cause they don't have the overall quality of a VW. the paint is the best among the non luxury brands, the seats have the best support and are the most comfortable for long trips (even in my wife's Polo i have sat for 5 hours driving without feeling tired unlike any other car in the segment) ect. VW means quality with capital letters. And i hope noone mentions reliability cause again compared to French and American (Opel, Ford) competition , Golf is still much better (although not as good as Honda or Toyota which on the other hand are very basic and cheap in built materials).

10-27-2005, 06:27 AM	#10 (permalink)
Carbon Advocate Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 795 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: German sales January to September 2005. Look at the entry luxury class with the A4 and the Passat and the compact class or w/e with the Golf and the A3. I guess a company offering two models in the same class that compete with each other isn't such a bad idea after all. VAG seems to know what it's doing.

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