Lexus has taken a new design direction!

Splenditenes · 10-24-2005, 05:55 PM

Ok, I know it`s a little earily to be talking about the next Lexus LS seeing that this is a concept but the production models design should be around 95%
of what this concept is. My question is why is Lexus following BMW in design now with the 2007 LS. Could the Japanese see BMW as the new German car leader?

Agent_Imperial · 10-24-2005, 06:00 PM

Wow, that's scarily similar! It even has the trademark Hoffmeister kink. Personally I've always liked the E60s design. It's my favorite of the Bangled cars. I think it is very innovative and perhaps other car makers are starting to realize this fact. Although it looks very similar from the side, I wonder how close the resemblance is from other angles?

Alx · 10-24-2005, 06:00 PM

Neither is following each other, the new LS looks like the current ES. Just bolder! M5 looks crazy in comparison i dotn really see any similarities.

Splenditenes · 10-24-2005, 06:04 PM

Man, I see BMW 5er all over this new car!! Lexus has managed to change some subtle design details but Im really shock!!

Mr. Mercedes · 10-24-2005, 06:40 PM

While the proportions are similar, the surfacing, detailing and other design elements are distinctly different to the 5. The car is still very Japanese. It's more of a grown up IS.

And I dont think that it's an acknowledgment that BMW is the new leader amongst the Germans. I think that lexus realised that anything too similar to a Benz the 3rd time around would be too much of a blatant rip off.

Alx · 10-24-2005, 06:52 PM

Exactly Mr.Merc....

In fact here is the ES330 looks like the Lexus but bolder...

Harry Plopper · 10-24-2005, 06:56 PM

Maybe the LF-S is a new ES, and not LS.

Alx · 10-24-2005, 06:58 PM

Could be Tine, they look too similar to each other, and for an LS its too sporty and sleek instead of bold, wide and luxury like.... too wierd for me.

Beemer B773ER · 10-24-2005, 07:08 PM

Whether BMW is the new leader in German design is purely subjective, so I doubt that is the case.

I think it's more the notion that BMW has broken the shackles of the image it used to have with its cars, ..that being a car which pleased the eyes of all, whether you were a BMW fan, or a Mercedes fan or whoever.
Now that they've shaken that image off with their bold new direction in design,..I think Lexus has realised that it can not solely rely on it's reputation of being reliable, ..that it's vehicle must also somehow be a symbol of Lexus and the direction that its heading.

BMW realised this a decade ago when the 7er was being designed. Lexus is instigating the same process in the last few years.

That's my take on Lexus and their designs.

Matt · 10-24-2005, 07:43 PM

Thanks for your take Bimmer Boi

Just kidding

That Lexus is very similar to the 5 in the lights and many of the lines. Personally I like the 5er better not the copy that was trying to avoid plagiarism by changing things here and there. The 5's lines are better put together and flow right, while the lexus looks like they were just trying to avoid a complete copy. There are definitely design Q's from the 5 onto that Lexus. That car is closer looking to the 5 than any previous Lexus.

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Splenditenes Devotee Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kansas City, USA. Posts: 2,573 Thanks: 51 Thanked 52 Times in 49 Posts	Lexus has taken a new design direction! Ok, I know it`s a little earily to be talking about the next Lexus LS seeing that this is a concept but the production models design should be around 95% of what this concept is. My question is why is Lexus following BMW in design now with the 2007 LS. Could the Japanese see BMW as the new German car leader?

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Agent_Imperial Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lexus has taken a new design direction! Wow, that's scarily similar! It even has the trademark Hoffmeister kink. Personally I've always liked the E60s design. It's my favorite of the Bangled cars. I think it is very innovative and perhaps other car makers are starting to realize this fact. Although it looks very similar from the side, I wonder how close the resemblance is from other angles? Last edited by Agent_Imperial; 10-24-2005 at 06:05 PM.

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Alx 007 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: -Poconos, PA.- 2005 Aston Martin DB9 Posts: 5,458 My Mood: Thanks: 886 Thanked 551 Times in 224 Posts	Re: Lexus has taken a new design direction! Neither is following each other, the new LS looks like the current ES. Just bolder! M5 looks crazy in comparison i dotn really see any similarities.

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Splenditenes Devotee Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kansas City, USA. Posts: 2,573 Thanks: 51 Thanked 52 Times in 49 Posts	Re: Lexus has taken a new design direction! Man, I see BMW 5er all over this new car!! Lexus has managed to change some subtle design details but Im really shock!!

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Mr. Mercedes Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 1,285 Thanks: 96 Thanked 77 Times in 52 Posts	Re: Lexus has taken a new design direction! While the proportions are similar, the surfacing, detailing and other design elements are distinctly different to the 5. The car is still very Japanese. It's more of a grown up IS. And I dont think that it's an acknowledgment that BMW is the new leader amongst the Germans. I think that lexus realised that anything too similar to a Benz the 3rd time around would be too much of a blatant rip off.

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Alx 007 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: -Poconos, PA.- 2005 Aston Martin DB9 Posts: 5,458 My Mood: Thanks: 886 Thanked 551 Times in 224 Posts	Re: Lexus has taken a new design direction! Exactly Mr.Merc.... In fact here is the ES330 looks like the Lexus but bolder...

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Alx 007 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: -Poconos, PA.- 2005 Aston Martin DB9 Posts: 5,458 My Mood: Thanks: 886 Thanked 551 Times in 224 Posts	Re: Lexus has taken a new design direction! Could be Tine, they look too similar to each other, and for an LS its too sporty and sleek instead of bold, wide and luxury like.... too wierd for me.

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Beemer B773ER Advocate Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 904 Thanks: 91 Thanked 202 Times in 96 Posts	Re: Lexus has taken a new design direction! Whether BMW is the new leader in German design is purely subjective, so I doubt that is the case. I think it's more the notion that BMW has broken the shackles of the image it used to have with its cars, ..that being a car which pleased the eyes of all, whether you were a BMW fan, or a Mercedes fan or whoever. Now that they've shaken that image off with their bold new direction in design,..I think Lexus has realised that it can not solely rely on it's reputation of being reliable, ..that it's vehicle must also somehow be a symbol of Lexus and the direction that its heading. BMW realised this a decade ago when the 7er was being designed. Lexus is instigating the same process in the last few years. That's my take on Lexus and their designs.

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Matt Devotee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 2,882 Thanks: 210 Thanked 130 Times in 88 Posts	Re: Lexus has taken a new design direction! Thanks for your take Bimmer Boi Just kidding That Lexus is very similar to the 5 in the lights and many of the lines. Personally I like the 5er better not the copy that was trying to avoid plagiarism by changing things here and there. The 5's lines are better put together and flow right, while the lexus looks like they were just trying to avoid a complete copy. There are definitely design Q's from the 5 onto that Lexus. That car is closer looking to the 5 than any previous Lexus. Last edited by Matt; 10-24-2005 at 10:57 PM.

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