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Old 11-08-2005, 07:41 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Mercedes cut German sales target

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Matt, Chrysler is on a sales roll right now so I'm not sure where you're getting it from that they don't sell. The 300, Magnum, minvans, Grand Cherokee, Commander, and Sebring Convertible all do well, plus Chrysler has a lot of new Japanese-competitive cars on the way like the Caliber and the next generation Sebring/Stratus sedans. They're on a roll so calling them sluggish and fat is totally void of the facts. Chrysler is whats keep MB afloat right now and getting rid of them simply isn't going to happen.

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I happen to be a Chrylser dealer, so I think I would have a better understanding of how the company is doing. The only reason Chrysler sells cars is by putting rediculous incentives on them (employee priceing plus). Just because they may sell a lot of cars doesnt mean the company is making any money. BTW 300's were selling well when they first came out, but so was the PT cruiser and now someone can Buy a brand new one for 13k. 300's have also slowed down. Chrysler also puts incentives on the dealer. If the dealer makes a certain quota by the end of the month Chysler awards them some money. This means that towards the end of the month cars are selling at 5k below invoice.
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Re: Mercedes cut German sales target

Thanks for that interesting and insightful information Matt - it's like I often say, "things are seldom what they seem".
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Old 11-09-2005, 01:27 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I happen to be a Chrylser dealer, so I think I would have a better understanding of how the company is doing. The only reason Chrysler sells cars is by putting rediculous incentives on them (employee priceing plus). Just because they may sell a lot of cars doesnt mean the company is making any money. BTW 300's were selling well when they first came out, but so was the PT cruiser and now someone can Buy a brand new one for 13k. 300's have also slowed down. Chrysler also puts incentives on the dealer. If the dealer makes a certain quota by the end of the month Chysler awards them some money. This means that towards the end of the month cars are selling at 5k below invoice.
Not that I don't believe you, but that is very interesting considering all the other things you've stated before that were incorrect. Are you a salesman?

Every product goes through and up and down cycle Matt. If you're a dealer you know this already. The 300 is no different, but not even you can deny that the 300 saved Chrysler. As far as them making money I doubt you'd be any more privy to Chrysler's internal financials than anyone else, even at the dealer level. All we can go by is what they issue in press releases and going by that Chrysler is making the money for DCX at this time. Now if you have some that says otherwise I'm surely interested in reading it.

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What have I said that is incorrect? Please inform. It really doesnt sound like you believe me.

I'll tell you what. I can find out Chrysler's financial situation by tomorro but things from my perspective look pretty grim. Financially, there not smart. They spend tons of money building cars that will never enter into production and not enough money on cars already in production. They allocate too few cars when demand is high and way too many when demand is low. Their advertising stinks and they don't know how to market their vehicles. The company isn't doing well as far as I can tell. Most of their vehicles don't sell well even when they first debut (excuse the 300).

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What have I said that is incorrect? Please inform.
In our previous conversations about what is based on what. You know like the Pacifica/R-Class etc. Nothing pertaining to the above information about sales/incentives etc.

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Yes, well if you look back on that post you will see that I wasnt positive (which I stated), so I looked it up. I am not on the Mercedes side of things so I dont know what parts and products they borrow from Chrysler.
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Yes, well if you look back on that post you will see that I wasnt positive (which I stated), so I looked it up. I am not on the Mercedes side of things so I dont know what parts and products they borrow from Chrysler.
Well that was kinda my whole point, that they don't borrow anything from Chrysler its the other way around, but its all good no biggie.

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