War in Iran? - Page 2

Michael · 05-03-2006, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Artist

well if this war brakes out.. i feel sorry for israel.. they are in a pretty bad position.. i think they will get hit hard..

PS
For those of you who know much about the judaism and sionism.. should know that the early sionism leaders predicted this future for a jewish state wich was not given by god but taken by man..
they also predicted the out come and the nature of the extreme antisemetism of the german ppl..

so i dont see a resolution to these terrorist probs anytime soon... everything went very wrong from the start.. and i dont know how it will be fixxed..maybe a third World War is a must.. ??

The Zionist predicted that?

Hypersonic · 05-03-2006, 08:48 PM

Israel sure would be targeted ...no doubt about that.

Michael · 05-03-2006, 08:57 PM

Of course Israel is going to be targeted. If you were muslim and were in the position that many muslims are in reference to Israel, and how much support Israel has received from the west, you would be mad to.

I am not saying that Iran is right in saying that Israel should not exist, or that the west is right in protecting it. It's just normal to understand both sides(I would argue that understanding Iranian's is easier than understanding the west defending Israel; however this is relative to what you believe and see on a daily basis.)

So that some of you know. In one of my Middle Eastern classes we were studying culture clashes in Israel. Believe it or not most Palestinians and Israelis want the suicide bombs, shootings, and overal terrorist attacks to stop. Many people are ignorant to this and think that these people are savages and all they want to do is fight and shoot and kill for whatever glory they so wish to conceive in their mind.

notic · 05-03-2006, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Artist

maybe a third World War is a must.. ??

a world war will have to consist of at least two superpowers. unless china and russia decide to take sides, thats probably not going to happen. at most, they will veto the american bill proposed at the UN security council.

The Artist · 05-03-2006, 09:24 PM

yep man i study religion at the university i know this stuff

..
here are some examples of zionists ( excuse my last spelling of zionism was using the swedish word)..

one of the early founders of zionism named Moses Hess.. said in his book Rom und Jerusalem (1862)..
The germans do not hate the jewish religon as much as the jewish ppl...
they dont hate their speciall faith as much as they hate their speciall noses
The jewish noses cant be reformed.. the black curly hair cant be made straight by any baptism or comb..
.....
Ahad Ha´ams.. founder of culturezionism says :
A jewish state with influences of other culture, with buildings for worshipping other religions will be a problem for our advancement in jewish culture.. and such a state will in the end lead to the end of the jewish race..
..............
Now these are just some examples .. i have to serch for more in my books that are at the uni..
please keep in mind that i translated this myself from swedish.. with my limited english .. sorry..
::::::::::::.
PS
Notic i have this theory that the Russians still hold a grudge against the US for the cold war.. and the fall of soviet.. i belive that if the opposition against the US grows strong.. Russia will be one of the large nations to join the opposition.. to me it feels like they are only friends on the outside but there are still rivelry underneath it all...

ohh and i dont feel that China is a very loyal friend of the US either..

Michael · 05-03-2006, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Artist

i have this theory that the Russians still hold a grudge against the US for the cold war.. and the fall of soviet.. i belive that if the opposition against the US grows strong.. Russia will be one of the large nations to join the opposition.. to me it feels like they are only friends on the outside but there are still rivelry underneath it all...

ohh and i dont feel that China is a very loyal friend of the US either..

I agree with youon that very much my friend.

The Artist · 05-03-2006, 09:34 PM

hehe good..its really amazing how we on this board often can get along.. even in matters like these.. and if we dont get along we respect others opinions..

this gotta be the best forum on the net

.. not only car forum.. but FORUM PERIOD

Michael · 05-04-2006, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Artist

hehe good..its really amazing how we on this board often can get along.. even in matters like these.. and if we dont get along we respect others opinions..

this gotta be the best forum on the net

.. not only car forum.. but FORUM PERIOD

I second that.

I must say that in addition to this being a great forum we have pretty well educated people that know history.

Imhotep Evil · 05-04-2006, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Artist

one of the early founders of zionism named Moses Hess.. said in his book Rom und Jerusalem (1862)..
The germans do not hate the jewish religon as much as the jewish ppl...
they dont hate their speciall faith as much as they hate their speciall noses
The jewish noses cant be reformed.. the black curly hair cant be made straight by any baptism or comb..

1. Well, not all jews are nosey and have curly hair, some even have blond hair and blue eyes, and even Hitler was 1/4 jewish.

2. The german jews played an active part in the unification of Germany and even more importantly in WW I, were without some of them Germany would have not had any gun powder to continue the war, nor it's would have been organized to resist/continue war so long witch even inspired A. Speer later.

3. Around here much is BS/speculation.

4. IMO dark days are comming if those mad theocrats get their hands on nuclear technology.

The Artist · 05-04-2006, 05:50 AM

LOL man i didnt say that.. MOSES HESS said it.. and i think he knows that all jews doesent look like that..
i dont think you understand his point.. his point was that we must have our own country cause the german antisemetism is so strong..that it goes beyond our religon to our facial or other features wich cant be changed..
so the only thing is.. to get the hell out of here..

PS
The point with posting this text by Hess is to show that he predicted..in 1862 that there was a huge risk in jews living in europe and germany..
and i guess he was right..

05-03-2006, 08:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
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05-03-2006, 08:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
Michael Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 3,248 Thanks: 246 Thanked 340 Times in 205 Posts	Re: War in Iran? Of course Israel is going to be targeted. If you were muslim and were in the position that many muslims are in reference to Israel, and how much support Israel has received from the west, you would be mad to. I am not saying that Iran is right in saying that Israel should not exist, or that the west is right in protecting it. It's just normal to understand both sides(I would argue that understanding Iranian's is easier than understanding the west defending Israel; however this is relative to what you believe and see on a daily basis.) So that some of you know. In one of my Middle Eastern classes we were studying culture clashes in Israel. Believe it or not most Palestinians and Israelis want the suicide bombs, shootings, and overal terrorist attacks to stop. Many people are ignorant to this and think that these people are savages and all they want to do is fight and shoot and kill for whatever glory they so wish to conceive in their mind.

05-03-2006, 09:24 PM	#15 (permalink)
The Artist Shaolin Shadow Boxer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Gothenburg Posts: 11,435 My Mood: Thanks: 122 Thanked 721 Times in 452 Posts	Re: War in Iran? yep man i study religion at the university i know this stuff.. here are some examples of zionists ( excuse my last spelling of zionism was using the swedish word).. one of the early founders of zionism named Moses Hess.. said in his book Rom und Jerusalem (1862).. The germans do not hate the jewish religon as much as the jewish ppl... they dont hate their speciall faith as much as they hate their speciall noses The jewish noses cant be reformed.. the black curly hair cant be made straight by any baptism or comb.. ..... Ahad Ha´ams.. founder of culturezionism says : A jewish state with influences of other culture, with buildings for worshipping other religions will be a problem for our advancement in jewish culture.. and such a state will in the end lead to the end of the jewish race.. .............. Now these are just some examples .. i have to serch for more in my books that are at the uni.. please keep in mind that i translated this myself from swedish.. with my limited english .. sorry.. ::::::::::::. PS Notic i have this theory that the Russians still hold a grudge against the US for the cold war.. and the fall of soviet.. i belive that if the opposition against the US grows strong.. Russia will be one of the large nations to join the opposition.. to me it feels like they are only friends on the outside but there are still rivelry underneath it all... ohh and i dont feel that China is a very loyal friend of the US either..

05-03-2006, 09:34 PM	#17 (permalink)
The Artist Shaolin Shadow Boxer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Gothenburg Posts: 11,435 My Mood: Thanks: 122 Thanked 721 Times in 452 Posts	Re: War in Iran? hehe good..its really amazing how we on this board often can get along.. even in matters like these.. and if we dont get along we respect others opinions.. this gotta be the best forum on the net.. not only car forum.. but FORUM PERIOD

05-04-2006, 05:50 AM	#20 (permalink)
The Artist Shaolin Shadow Boxer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Gothenburg Posts: 11,435 My Mood: Thanks: 122 Thanked 721 Times in 452 Posts	Re: War in Iran? LOL man i didnt say that.. MOSES HESS said it.. and i think he knows that all jews doesent look like that.. i dont think you understand his point.. his point was that we must have our own country cause the german antisemetism is so strong..that it goes beyond our religon to our facial or other features wich cant be changed.. so the only thing is.. to get the hell out of here.. PS The point with posting this text by Hess is to show that he predicted..in 1862 that there was a huge risk in jews living in europe and germany.. and i guess he was right..

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