NarutoRamen

Sure. In summer of 2002, I went to India and more specifically in a village in punjab. We were at a family function where they had a priest to bless their new house. The priest is a well know priest (that's what I was told) and after the house blessing ceremony this old guy came and brought this old woman with him. They were both in their late 70s to early 80s.

As soon as the priest saw them he yelled at the man and asked why he had brought her here where there are lots of children. He then yelled at all the parents to take their kids inside. Then began the fun/scary stuff.

The woman was possessed by a spirit. She kept on asking the priest to help her in her own voice and then suddenly the voice changed to a man's voice and yelled at the priest that he is not going to leave her body. The priest and the spirit argued and the priest prayed/chanted and finally things calmed down. The priest told the lady's husband to bring her to his house in the evening.

So when I left, the priest wasn't able to extract the spirit out and the spirit didn't want to reason with him. Plus, the priest didn't want the spirit coming out angrily and possessing a child, thus the reason he wanted all the children gone.

Some might believe me, others might think I'm crazy. But honestly, I saw what I saw and there is nothing in the world that can tell me otherwise.

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Why was this guy there?

Had she wronged someone?

NarutoRamen

Why did the spirit posses the woman? Well from what I understood her son while drunk, pissed on this guy's grave (muslim spirit). So to teach the family a lesson he possessed her. does that make sense? I don't know, but that's what the spirit did.

Deutsch

When it comes to faith I'm pretty blunt, and no, I'm not shoving what I believe down anyone's throat, I just tell as I believe. To answer the question:

Yes, absolutely, there is something much much greater, something beyond the physical earth: heaven & hell. What you believe in this life dictates where you'll go afterwards. I could go on and on and on about this, but I shall refrain.

Deutsch

It's always a choice, regardless. To believe, not to believe, to do right, to wrong, is all a choice, a product of the human conscience. That, you cannot deny.

I personally believe in the concept of a "free will", which man obtains inherently in his physical and psychological being, to do as he pleases. From that you derive all these different ideas, customs, traditions, etc. What's right and wrong? That is obviously open for interpretation, but I think we can all agree, religious or not, from whatever culture you are from that there indeed is a "right" and a "wrong", based off of experience and learned behavior(to one degree or another). Heck,( your pain impulse inherently tells you something is "wrong", whether the pain is inflicted or occurs naturally(physical, emotional, whatever), or if you feel good as a result of some experience or natural reaction. That enough, something so simple, tells you that "right" and "wrong" do indeed, exist.

Deutsch

I love you guys, you know this. But how on earth would you know if you haven't died yet????

That's the catch I believe, it ties in with what I said above, what you believe now dictates what happens afterwards. Where you'll go? Heck I don't know... that's not in my hands.

When it comes to coming to a reasoning for our existence and all that is around us, I know for a fact that it all just didn't happen at the explosion of a dust cloud, and gradually we just happened to evolve from multi cellular organisms, then morphed to monkeys, which in turn processed "somewhere" out of nowhere into human beings. There's no way that could have happened when humans have a mental capacity and understanding that eludes all other creation, the kind that has enabled us to single handily rule the earth for thousands upon thousands(or however long you believe we've been here) years, and find ways to cope with the elements that we cannot control, write books, develop reasoning, etc. All of this could not have happened by chance, that I refuse to believe. Evolution, IMO, is just a way people cope with their physical existence using the physical world as a basis for their beliefs, as where faith on the other hand is defined as the "belief in things unseen". It requires hard work, patience, and dedication to believe in something more than the physical realm. Something that many, after so much time find hard to come to terms with. But hey, everyone has the privilege of living this life as they see it fit, but very few if any can say that've never pondered the idea of faith.

MikeJ

Well, Deutsch, I respect your beliefs... but I've had these discussions before, and know that there is only one conclusion this type of 'reasoning' ends in. It'll be "things just happened" vs. "God just happened". Not that much of a difference if you ask me.

Hypersonic

Ah, very interesting Deutsch, so you are a "creationist" ...the "intellegent design" camp.

I am not dissing your views, but how do you explain the great evidence we have to support evolution -- which is more than we can say for evidence we have to support the existence of God -- evolution is not really a theory, it's a fact.

The Roman Catholics said the earth was the center of the universe until they finally could no longer argue with the scientific facts of the matter -- Galileo got into a lot of trouble over that.

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