New Lexus LS430 - Lexus Claims "Best Car in the World" - Page 3

PHYBENZ · 01-08-2006, 11:01 PM

Boring, and I agree, let's stop talking about... One thing that I have always thought is how bad cheap and fake the wood Lexus uses in their car.

Hypersonic · 01-09-2006, 12:21 AM

It may very well be the "Best Car In The World", but it certainly is not the most attractive or desirable.

When I look at it, I just get bored....and mildly nauseous.

notic · 01-09-2006, 01:18 AM

hmmm..seems like i'm the only person who likes this car. the exterior isn't groundbreaking or anything, but this is a rolling marvel of technology. if toyota manages to pull off this much tech without having all the recalls like their german counterparts, then they have done some seriously good work.

here are some notable pieces of technology:
-380hps/370lb
-8 speed!
-rear recliner seats with leg rests (thats maybach luxury!)
-driver assited park system (parks the car automatically)
-19 speakers
-4000 song hard drive

all info from jalopnik. more pics:

Yannis · 01-09-2006, 02:03 AM

What's the point in using a 8 speed gearbox when a 7 speed one is more than enough? Perhaps to be the first like Mercedes did with the 7G one?

BKK-ES · 01-09-2006, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Yannis

What's the point in using a 8 speed gearbox when a 7 speed one is more than enough? Perhaps to be the first like Mercedes did with the 7G one?

Then where is the point using CVT? The more, the better, right? It is an 8-speed automatic, not manual.

Yannis · 01-09-2006, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BKK-ES

Then where is the point using CVT? The more, the better, right? It is a 8-speed automatic, not manual.

In CVT there are essentially no gears:

Quote:

Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT): A new kind of automatic transmission (that has actually been around for more than 100 years, but only recently began appearing in cars), the CVT has no gears, friction plates, hydraulic fluids or torque converter. Instead, it uses a simple belt-and-pulley design, which enables it to closely match the transmission ratios with the optimum rpm range of the engine for better power delivery and increased fuel efficiency. Used mostly in light industrial applications, recent advancements in materials and microprocessor technology have made CVTs more suitable for automobiles.

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So the gears can be essentially infinite!

Top Secret · 01-09-2006, 02:33 AM

Tine - You're trying to make this too big of a deal. It's a minute feature, one that 99% of the people here probably don't care about. It's like saying that the 7 Series was a copy of the S-Class because it's the same size.

Yannis - What was the point of the 7-speed automatic? What about the 6-speed? It's just technology moving on.

I agree with notic, it is a great car and one that brings countless new features.

Mirage77 · 01-09-2006, 02:42 AM

Although this car isn't particularly tasteful on the inside, the exterior does it for me. It's simple and elegant. My grim with the interior is that the wood panels look far too cheesy, and the colour combination is a wreck for the one on display. Maybe a beige interior would look better. The interior design is also rather old school when compared to the new GS. I surely hope they include a touch screen in this car - I must agree with notic, this car is a step foward for the automotive world. Many technological advances.

The legroom for rear passengers is really fantastic.

Yannis · 01-09-2006, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Secret

Yannis - What was the point of the 7-speed automatic? What about the 6-speed? It's just technology moving on.

Is it? I believe it's more of a marketing gimmick. I can already see the Lexus sales person saying: "Why buy a Benz when it only has 7 speeds and you will have to park it yourself?". Of course people who know about cars won't fall for it but Mr. Joe Doe who only wants a car with more gears than it's neighbours will like it a lot.

Top Secret · 01-09-2006, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yannis

Is it? I believe it's more of a marketing gimmick. I can already see the Lexus sales person saying: "Why buy a Benz when it only has 7 speeds and you will have to park it yourself?". Of course people who know about cars won't fall for it but Mr. Joe Doe who only wants a car with more gears than it's neighbours will like it a lot.

So they would pour millions of dollars to develop a brand-new transmission for a marketing gimmick.

There's obviously some benefit in having an 8-speed, hence the reason why they developed it. The fact that it gave Lexus a one over MB would have just been a bonus.

01-08-2006, 11:01 PM	#21 (permalink)
PHYBENZ Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 452 Thanks: 7 Thanked 132 Times in 53 Posts	Re: New Lexus LS430 - Lexus Claims "Best Car in the World" Boring, and I agree, let's stop talking about... One thing that I have always thought is how bad cheap and fake the wood Lexus uses in their car.

01-09-2006, 12:21 AM	#22 (permalink)
Hypersonic Connoisseur Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 5,527 Thanks: 1,029 Thanked 852 Times in 524 Posts	Re: New Lexus LS430 - Lexus Claims "Best Car in the World" It may very well be the "Best Car In The World", but it certainly is not the most attractive or desirable. When I look at it, I just get bored....and mildly nauseous.

01-09-2006, 01:18 AM	#23 (permalink)
notic Advocate Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 802 My Mood: Thanks: 179 Thanked 147 Times in 88 Posts	Re: New Lexus LS430 - Lexus Claims "Best Car in the World" hmmm..seems like i'm the only person who likes this car. the exterior isn't groundbreaking or anything, but this is a rolling marvel of technology. if toyota manages to pull off this much tech without having all the recalls like their german counterparts, then they have done some seriously good work. here are some notable pieces of technology: -380hps/370lb -8 speed! -rear recliner seats with leg rests (thats maybach luxury!) -driver assited park system (parks the car automatically) -19 speakers -4000 song hard drive all info from jalopnik. more pics:

01-09-2006, 02:03 AM	#24 (permalink)
Yannis Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 7,198 My Mood: Thanks: 1,243 Thanked 1,230 Times in 702 Posts	Re: New Lexus LS430 - Lexus Claims "Best Car in the World" What's the point in using a 8 speed gearbox when a 7 speed one is more than enough? Perhaps to be the first like Mercedes did with the 7G one?

01-09-2006, 02:33 AM	#27 (permalink)
Top Secret Advocate Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 624 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: New Lexus LS430 - Lexus Claims "Best Car in the World" Tine - You're trying to make this too big of a deal. It's a minute feature, one that 99% of the people here probably don't care about. It's like saying that the 7 Series was a copy of the S-Class because it's the same size. Yannis - What was the point of the 7-speed automatic? What about the 6-speed? It's just technology moving on. I agree with notic, it is a great car and one that brings countless new features.

01-09-2006, 02:42 AM	#28 (permalink)
Mirage77 The Doughnutman. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 5,438 Thanks: 1,473 Thanked 1,225 Times in 722 Posts	Re: New Lexus LS430 - Lexus Claims "Best Car in the World" Although this car isn't particularly tasteful on the inside, the exterior does it for me. It's simple and elegant. My grim with the interior is that the wood panels look far too cheesy, and the colour combination is a wreck for the one on display. Maybe a beige interior would look better. The interior design is also rather old school when compared to the new GS. I surely hope they include a touch screen in this car - I must agree with notic, this car is a step foward for the automotive world. Many technological advances. The legroom for rear passengers is really fantastic.

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