Turkish Grand Prix

Alfie · 08-24-2006, 10:39 AM

After a long break it's finally time for F1 again! Long break means long time to work on the cars and it will be intersting to see the result of all the changes done.

I have my money on Schumacher for this race but I think Alonso will be a strong contender as well. If only he gets a good qualifying session I think he will win.

Mikael · 08-24-2006, 01:00 PM

It will be interesting to see how much the banning of the mass damper system will effect Renault's competitiveness.

Alfie · 08-24-2006, 11:42 PM

True, bery interesting.

I still can't understand why they were banned since there isn't a single rule agains. They must've changed the rules.

BMW_Dude · 08-25-2006, 06:16 AM

Free practice lap times so far:

Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points

1 3 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:28.315

2 5 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:28.777

3 12 Jenson Button Honda 1:28.785

4 35 Alexander Wurz Williams-Cosworth 1:28.959

5 36 Anthony Davidson Honda 1:29.193

6 4 Pedro de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes 1:29.376

7 16 Nick Heidfeld Sauber-BMW 1:29.780

8 38 Sebastian Vettel Sauber-BMW 1:29.964

9 37 Robert Doornbos RBR-Ferrari 1:30.391

10 40 Neel Jani STR-Cosworth 1:30.576

11 11 Rubens Barrichello Honda 1:30.838

12 39 Giorgio Mondini MF1-Toyota 1:30.846

13 21 Scott Speed STR-Cosworth 1:31.416

14 19 Christijan Albers MF1-Toyota 1:31.475

15 18 Tiago Monteiro MF1-Toyota 1:31.566

16 41 Franck Montagny Super Aguri-Honda 1:31.814

17 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:31.904

18 23 Sakon Yamamoto Super Aguri-Honda 1:32.212

19 20 Vitantonio Liuzzi STR-Cosworth 1:32.497

20 7 Ralf Schumacher Toyota

21 8 Jarno Trulli Toyota

22 2 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault

23 1 Fernando Alonso Renault

24 22 Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda

25 17 Robert Kubica Sauber-BMW

26 15 Christian Klien RBR-Ferrari

27 14 David Coulthard RBR-Ferrari

28 9 Mark Webber Williams-Cosworth

29 10 Nico Rosberg Williams-Cosworth

siko · 08-26-2006, 01:30 PM

I overslept again, but here are the quals results:

Pos No Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3
1 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:27.306 1:27.059 1:26.907
2 5 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:27.385 1:25.850 1:27.284
3 1 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:27.861 1:26.917 1:27.321
4 2 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:28.175 1:27.346 1:27.564
5 7 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:27.668 1:27.062 1:27.569
6 16 Nick Heidfeld Sauber-BMW 1:28.200 1:27.251 1:27.785
7 12 Jenson Button Honda 1:28.222 1:26.872 1:27.790
8 3 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:28.236 1:27.202 1:27.866
9 17 Robert Kubica Sauber-BMW 1:28.212 1:27.405 1:28.167
10 9 Mark Webber Williams-Cosworth 1:28.307 1:27.608 1:29.436
11 15 Christian Klien RBR-Ferrari 1:28.271 1:27.852
12 4 Pedro de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes 1:28.403 1:27.897
13 8 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:28.549 1:27.973
14 11 Rubens Barrichello Honda 1:28.411 1:28.257
15 10 Nico Rosberg Williams-Cosworth 1:28.889 1:28.386
16 19 Christijan Albers MF1-Toyota 1:29.021 1:28.639
17 14 David Coulthard RBR-Ferrari 1:29.136
18 21 Scott Speed STR-Cosworth 1:29.158
19 20 Vitantonio Liuzzi STR-Cosworth 1:29.250
20 18 Tiago Monteiro MF1-Toyota 1:29.901
21 23 Sakon Yamamoto Super Aguri-Honda 1:30.607
22 22 Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1:30.850

... Kimi is in a descent spot, so are the BMWs.

siko · 08-26-2006, 02:50 PM

Ralf will drop 10 due to an engine change, so Heidfeld will move to 5th

Mikael · 08-26-2006, 04:22 PM

Didn't see the qualifying but it looks like Schumi has driven very fast on the 2nd round!

Alfie · 08-26-2006, 04:47 PM

Massa on pole! Will be interesting to see how Alonso fairs without the mass damper. He might've been fast in qualifying but I suspect a light fuel load and without the mass damper the tire wear on his car will increase so I don't think he stands a chance against Schumacher. I also think Button has a huge chance to get a podium. He was insanely quick in the first sectors but lost the pace later towards the end of the circuit.

The Bridgestone tires seem to work alot better than the Michelns in high heat so thats yet another factor to Ferrari's advantage.

go0gle · 08-26-2006, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Zonda

Massa on pole! Will be interesting to see how Alonso fairs without the mass damper. He might've been fast in qualifying but I suspect a light fuel load and without the mass damper the tire wear on his car will increase so I don't think he stands a chance against Schumacher. I also think Button has a huge chance to get a podium. He was insanely quick in the first sectors but lost the pace later towards the end of the circuit.

The Bridgestone tires seem to work alot better than the Michelns in high heat so thats yet another factor to Ferrari's advantage.

Alonso very well might be on a 3 stopper in case they have a lot of tire wear...

450SEL6.9 · 08-27-2006, 09:50 AM

What a race! Schu loses another 2 to Alonso. That was a bad mistake by the Ferrari pit crew. It's not looking good for Schu. The last two races for him have been disappointing. The points gap between him and Alonso could be 0, but it's 12 with 4 to go.

08-24-2006, 10:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
Alfie Aficionado Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: La Svezia! Posts: 4,809 My Mood: Thanks: 781 Thanked 820 Times in 503 Posts	Turkish Grand Prix After a long break it's finally time for F1 again! Long break means long time to work on the cars and it will be intersting to see the result of all the changes done. I have my money on Schumacher for this race but I think Alonso will be a strong contender as well. If only he gets a good qualifying session I think he will win.

08-24-2006, 01:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mikael Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,838 Thanks: 739 Thanked 311 Times in 199 Posts	Re: Turkish Grand Prix It will be interesting to see how much the banning of the mass damper system will effect Renault's competitiveness.

08-24-2006, 11:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
Alfie Aficionado Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: La Svezia! Posts: 4,809 My Mood: Thanks: 781 Thanked 820 Times in 503 Posts	Re: Turkish Grand Prix True, bery interesting. I still can't understand why they were banned since there isn't a single rule agains. They must've changed the rules.

08-25-2006, 06:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
BMW_Dude Aficionado Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,224 My Mood: Thanks: 265 Thanked 390 Times in 233 Posts	Re: Turkish Grand Prix Free practice lap times so far: Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points 1 3 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:28.315 2 5 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:28.777 3 12 Jenson Button Honda 1:28.785 4 35 Alexander Wurz Williams-Cosworth 1:28.959 5 36 Anthony Davidson Honda 1:29.193 6 4 Pedro de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes 1:29.376 7 16 Nick Heidfeld Sauber-BMW 1:29.780 8 38 Sebastian Vettel Sauber-BMW 1:29.964 9 37 Robert Doornbos RBR-Ferrari 1:30.391 10 40 Neel Jani STR-Cosworth 1:30.576 11 11 Rubens Barrichello Honda 1:30.838 12 39 Giorgio Mondini MF1-Toyota 1:30.846 13 21 Scott Speed STR-Cosworth 1:31.416 14 19 Christijan Albers MF1-Toyota 1:31.475 15 18 Tiago Monteiro MF1-Toyota 1:31.566 16 41 Franck Montagny Super Aguri-Honda 1:31.814 17 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:31.904 18 23 Sakon Yamamoto Super Aguri-Honda 1:32.212 19 20 Vitantonio Liuzzi STR-Cosworth 1:32.497 20 7 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 21 8 Jarno Trulli Toyota 22 2 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 23 1 Fernando Alonso Renault 24 22 Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 25 17 Robert Kubica Sauber-BMW 26 15 Christian Klien RBR-Ferrari 27 14 David Coulthard RBR-Ferrari 28 9 Mark Webber Williams-Cosworth 29 10 Nico Rosberg Williams-Cosworth

08-26-2006, 01:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
siko Devotee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 3,586 My Mood: Thanks: 815 Thanked 688 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Turkish Grand Prix I overslept again, but here are the quals results: Pos No Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3 1 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:27.306 1:27.059 1:26.907 2 5 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:27.385 1:25.850 1:27.284 3 1 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:27.861 1:26.917 1:27.321 4 2 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:28.175 1:27.346 1:27.564 5 7 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:27.668 1:27.062 1:27.569 6 16 Nick Heidfeld Sauber-BMW 1:28.200 1:27.251 1:27.785 7 12 Jenson Button Honda 1:28.222 1:26.872 1:27.790 8 3 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:28.236 1:27.202 1:27.866 9 17 Robert Kubica Sauber-BMW 1:28.212 1:27.405 1:28.167 10 9 Mark Webber Williams-Cosworth 1:28.307 1:27.608 1:29.436 11 15 Christian Klien RBR-Ferrari 1:28.271 1:27.852 12 4 Pedro de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes 1:28.403 1:27.897 13 8 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:28.549 1:27.973 14 11 Rubens Barrichello Honda 1:28.411 1:28.257 15 10 Nico Rosberg Williams-Cosworth 1:28.889 1:28.386 16 19 Christijan Albers MF1-Toyota 1:29.021 1:28.639 17 14 David Coulthard RBR-Ferrari 1:29.136 18 21 Scott Speed STR-Cosworth 1:29.158 19 20 Vitantonio Liuzzi STR-Cosworth 1:29.250 20 18 Tiago Monteiro MF1-Toyota 1:29.901 21 23 Sakon Yamamoto Super Aguri-Honda 1:30.607 22 22 Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1:30.850 ... Kimi is in a descent spot, so are the BMWs.

08-26-2006, 02:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
siko Devotee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 3,586 My Mood: Thanks: 815 Thanked 688 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Turkish Grand Prix Ralf will drop 10 due to an engine change, so Heidfeld will move to 5th

08-26-2006, 04:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mikael Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,838 Thanks: 739 Thanked 311 Times in 199 Posts	Re: Turkish Grand Prix Didn't see the qualifying but it looks like Schumi has driven very fast on the 2nd round!

08-26-2006, 04:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
Alfie Aficionado Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: La Svezia! Posts: 4,809 My Mood: Thanks: 781 Thanked 820 Times in 503 Posts	Re: Turkish Grand Prix Massa on pole! Will be interesting to see how Alonso fairs without the mass damper. He might've been fast in qualifying but I suspect a light fuel load and without the mass damper the tire wear on his car will increase so I don't think he stands a chance against Schumacher. I also think Button has a huge chance to get a podium. He was insanely quick in the first sectors but lost the pace later towards the end of the circuit. The Bridgestone tires seem to work alot better than the Michelns in high heat so thats yet another factor to Ferrari's advantage.

08-27-2006, 09:50 AM	#10 (permalink)
450SEL6.9 Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 825 My Mood: Thanks: 57 Thanked 60 Times in 54 Posts	Re: Turkish Grand Prix What a race! Schu loses another 2 to Alonso. That was a bad mistake by the Ferrari pit crew. It's not looking good for Schu. The last two races for him have been disappointing. The points gap between him and Alonso could be 0, but it's 12 with 4 to go.

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