E63 ///amg - Page 8

bum-man · 04-12-2006, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Mercedes

The adaptive nature of this suspension has been a feature of airmatic from its introduction in the S-class in 1999 no?

Then the E's airmatic in 2002 added adaptive dampening as well, and now this is just a 3rd generation that probably opperates a lot more efficiently etc (hence the ADS II). So in actual fact airmatic has had adaptive dampening for a long long time.

Well that's my understanding. Anyone please correct me if I am wrong.

I believe Mercedes had this in some of their cars from the 70's, it wasn't very reliable though.

So, ya, it does look like BMW studied the competition.

ALI · 04-12-2006, 04:31 PM

You guys , the CLK does not come with neither in the regular lineup . I think that's why they just added ABC , since the project will cost them anyway and the car at that level of power needed that kinda modification .

Splenditenes · 04-12-2006, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALI

You guys , the CLK does not come with neither in the regular lineup . I think that's why they just added ABC , since the project will cost them anyway and the car at that level of power needed that kinda modification .

Yes, the normal CLK uses regular springs and shocks. We know the CLK63 now uses ABC. (according to the AMG site) If the E63 still uses Airmatic
thats a big disadvantage to ABC. ABC is way better and faster reacting!

Like I said really can`t see MB equiping the CLK63 with this excellent suspension while leaving the E63 and CLS63 with AirmaticII.

Merc1 · 04-12-2006, 05:06 PM

I don't have time to look now, but the CLK63 uses ABC? Active Body Control from the S/CL/SL? I don't believe that.

M

Just_me · 04-12-2006, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Mercedes

The adaptive nature of this suspension has been a feature of airmatic from its introduction in the S-class in 1999 no?

Then the E's airmatic in 2002 added adaptive dampening as well, and now this is just a 3rd generation that probably opperates a lot more efficiently etc (hence the ADS II). So in actual fact airmatic has had adaptive dampening for a long long time.

Well that's my understanding. Anyone please correct me if I am wrong.

EDC existed in M5 E34 so its hardly a new invention.
Im not talking about copy, this dont exist in E55 but in E63. Why? Probably because M5 has it. thats what Im saying and it has nothing to do with copying. So obviosly MB studied the compeition and now its available for E63 AMG..
Just because I say study the competition then I dont mean its something bad.

Splenditenes · 04-12-2006, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merc1

I don't have time to look now, but the CLK63 uses ABC? Active Body Control from the S/CL/SL? I don't believe that.

M

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Type up the CLS63 specs, then suspension!

Mr. Mercedes · 04-12-2006, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just_me

EDC existed in M5 E34 so its hardly a new invention.
Im not talking about copy, this dont exist in E55 but in E63. Why? Probably because M5 has it. thats what Im saying and it has nothing to do with copying. So obviosly MB studied the compeition and now its available for E63 AMG..
Just because I say study the competition then I dont mean its something bad.

No no Just Me, I don't have a problem with what you're saying. I was just under the impression that since the standard 2002 E-class airmatic had adaptive dampening, surely the airmatic equipped E55 also had this adaptive dampening?

Now with the E63 the adaptive dampening has again been upgraded which is why its been mentioned in the press release?

Hopefully a more knowledgeable MB fan can tell us if the airmatic system fitted to the E55 did in fact have adaptive dampening?

I don't understand why it wouldn't have it when the standard system did.

Just_me · 04-12-2006, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Mercedes

No no Just Me, I don't have a problem with what you're saying. I was just under the impression that since the standard 2002 E-class airmatic had adaptive dampening, surely the airmatic equipped E55 also had this adaptive dampening?

Now with the E63 the adaptive dampening has again been upgraded which is why its been mentioned in the press release?

Hopefully a more knowledgeable MB fan can tell us if the airmatic system fitted to the E55 did in fact have adaptive dampening?

I don't understand why it wouldn't have it when the standard system did.

I dont know much about MB history (not much about BMW history either) but since someone wrote that quote I had to write what I thought

When I read that qoute it sounded like there were 3 different settings. M5 has 3 settings as well normal, comfort, sport. What are those three settings called on E63?

The Artist · 04-12-2006, 06:29 PM

The car is now up at AMG website ..check it out..you can twist and turn it

here are some pics

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Splenditenes · 04-12-2006, 07:56 PM

Looks like thay kept Airmatic. Thay improved it though! The CLK63 will outperform the E63 on the track with it`s ABC setup. Thats for sure!

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Splenditenes Devotee Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kansas City, USA. Posts: 2,573 Thanks: 51 Thanked 52 Times in 49 Posts	Re: E63 ///amg Looks like thay kept Airmatic. Thay improved it though! The CLK63 will outperform the E63 on the track with it`s ABC setup. Thats for sure!

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