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![]() | Re: Obama phenomenon / fashion / hysteria? Oh please, I think all the stories in the press about his supporters worrying about his security are part of the campaign strategy. I think it is a story the allegedly pro-Obama media reported to enhance him as a brave figure willing to risk his personal security. Lately it does appear that some media outlets are not being objective in the race. Check the hilarious SNL parody of the recent debate. The security procedures in place today will not allow a presidential candidate to be harmed at his own friendly rally in a hotel ballroom (RFK in '68). The guys in the press that keep writing these stories should make an effort to do a story on campaign security measures first. Therefore, I think the people who keep talking up the security risk of any candidate are doing it for a political advantage. Last edited by 450SEL6.9; 02-25-2008 at 08:07 PM. Reason: Tried to add youtube link, but where is it????? It won't show up! |
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![]() | Re: Obama phenomenon / fashion / hysteria? I agree. Today some people evoke the risk of assassination to say this: he risks something, because HE is "worth" assassinating. Whereas Clinton, well, does not risk anything... ![]() That is the message I think. HE is a real agent of change, HE is the new JFK, HE will have strong opinions against the bad people...Therefore HE risks to be murdered. And so, unconsciously, you say to yourself, well that's right, he is a bit like JFK, yes he wants things to change, and by voting for him I could make things change, because he takes risk, even the risk of beeing murdered. Whereas Clinton, well... not the same level. That is for me the thing: all this gives the impression that Obama is at a much higher level than Clinton. |
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![]() | Re: Obama phenomenon / fashion / hysteria? It looks like tonight's Ohio debate will be the last chance to see Hillary debating as a candidate. Polls in Texas show Obama has pulled ahead, probably for good. Let's face it, a loss to Obama in Texas or Ohio not only ends her campaign, but it likely finishes the Clinton political machine. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Obama phenomenon / fashion / hysteria? Better naive than paranoid like bush who is playing President of the world. American needs radical change; young soldiers are dying for nothing in Iraq, the domestic economy is bleeding and the hatred for the US is growing globally. Bush has done nothing for America the latest 4 years, the country is in need of someone who is the opposite. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Obama phenomenon / fashion / hysteria? ^ You actually think Obama will pull US troops out of Iraq do you? .....that is simply not going to happen. As bad as Iraq is now, it would be a hell of a lot worse, and a far greater threat, if the insurgents (terrorists) get control of it. 2007 was the worst year of violence in Iraq, there were approximately 24,159 civilian deaths ....but lets not forget that 19,000 people were murdered in South Africa in the same year -- there is a lot of bad things happening which the US has no part of. The United States gets a lot of criticism, but it still does a great deal more for peace than any other country. As for Bush, it has become fashionable to hate Bush, sure, a lot of dumb mistakes have been made by the Bush administration (it is such a pity they didn't listen to Colin Powell) but I don't think Bush has been quite as much of a disaster as he is often portrayed -- I think time will help us put Bush's presidency in proper context. Also, lets not overlook the fact that Bush has done more to help Africa than any other US president in history. Last edited by Hypersonic; 02-27-2008 at 10:11 PM. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Obama phenomenon / fashion / hysteria? Who ever becomes president will have the Iraq at the top of agenda. The war is like a mold, just dragging along with time and sucking financial resources which could have been used in other ways. An immediate retreat of all troops is off course not an option but all I'm saying is that who ever doesn't solve the crisis can count on not getting reelected. The Bush hatred is not a band wagon; Katrina, Saddam + alleged weapons of mass destruction, US health care and the act of playing International police by barking at everyone who start a nuclear program. He has focused more on international politics then what he as on domestic issues. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Obama phenomenon / fashion / hysteria? Some time ago I saw a survey in which they had asked Americans what were the priorities when they choose the candidate they are going to vote for. I was surprised by how many people listed the wish that they want a president that they don't have to be ashamed of when they're abroad. As Obama has the "cleaniest" reputation he has the advantage in many voters' eyes in this regard. Many people might also vote for Obama to show the rest of the world how unprejudiced and open-minded Americans are. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Obama phenomenon / fashion / hysteria? Many hate him because they view him as representing some kind of right-wing conservative imperialist agenda -- and that is a very simplistic and ignorant point of view. Last edited by Hypersonic; 02-29-2008 at 10:49 AM. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Obama phenomenon / fashion / hysteria? ^ I was really referring to the "rent-a-mob" types who turn up at any protest just so they can have some excuse to throw street furniture through a McDonald's window. |
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