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Regardless of who will become the new president they will be facing the toughest challenge ever. The war with Iraq has turned out to be the biggest mess since Vietnam. The US has proven to be help less despite all their super advanced army.
Capturing Saddam Hussein was nothing but an introduction. Gordon Brown in the UK will become a hero simply by withdrawing all the British troops which is something that Bush can't. The US will be supporting Iraq until it is a stable nation. Right now the country is no mans land similar to Somalia without an established government.
Young men are dying, the war is getting less popular and billions of dollars are being spent while millions of Americans are living without health insurance while many others are living in poverty.

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Choleric

Sort of back on topic here.

I think one of the absolute worst choices right now is Rudy Giuliani.

His views on foreign policiy are absolutely frightening, borderline facist. Also, his plan to strengthen and extend the Patriot Act is even more frightening. He has said that he values 'Executive Privalege' over The Constituion, and will use EP as a tool to Put America 'on offense' and protect 'America.'

If the world hates Bush because of his foreign policy, they would be screwed if Rudy was elected.

Choleric

Anyone watch the Debate last night?

Biden still impresses me the most. Dodd and Gravel are moving up on my list as well. The top 3 were predictable, with Edwards and Obama standing out to me.

Choleric

Well we have our first casualty of the '08 race. Former GOP governor of Wisconsin Tommy Thompson has officially dropped out of the race;

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450SEL6.9

Al Gore needs to run. Unfortunately, I don't think his party is smart enough to nominate him, even if he gets into the race. The Dems always nominate east coast Liberals that can't win in the general election. This time it's probably going to be Hillary.

I think Republicans know they will have the hardest time being Gore. Hillary Clinton, because she has a 48-50% negative rating from voters, the Republicans can handle. In some polls 40%+ of the respondents say they will never vote for her! I think you can't win an election when you are only able to compete for 60% of the vote.

Hypersonic

Al Gore is dreadful. His "documentary" is a big load of propaganda BS -- he just jumped on the climate change bandwagon for his own publicity. He would just be a lap dog for the United Nations -- there is not much that is noble about the UN.

450SEL6.9

As you know, I am not a blind supporter of his global warming stance, nor am I a huge fan on the UN, but I think he is the most qualified, experienced president for these times. So many of the Democrats running now supported the war and now that things are going badly, as Gore and many others had warned, they want to be given the chance to fix it. If a bullheaded guy (or girl) goes into a China shop and smashes every piece, why would he or she be entrusted to fixing everything? Only now we are talking about something a little more important than a China store.

The reason I support Gore is that I think he is the toughest Democrat to beat. Let's face it, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are radical choices. By radical, I mean that no woman or African American has ever been nominated for president. The Democratic party always goes to the same well for candidates - i.e. east coast Liberals that can't win general elections. The last three Dem presidents have been southerners. If they pick a safe, white, southern male, they should win the presidency handily. I don't think there is a safer one than Gore.

To win the presidency, you need to win a southern state. I am absolutely not convinced that southerners will vote for a woman or a black man. The south is not a Democratic stronghold anyway and I see no reason to experiment with a radical choice. There is too much at stake, perhaps for the entire world, in this '08 election.

Before someone calls me a racist and insist on a white president, I'll just say that I'm not even white. I want to see the best candidate try to win the WH. I didn't mind Republicans (heck, I'd be Republican if I'm American), but 8-years is long enough for any party to occupy the WH. Unlike some Democrats, I just think that their fetish with east coast Liberal nominees is stupid. They should not nominate anyone from New York, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Jersey or any of those states. They should go to what works and that's not east coast Liberals!

Hypersonic

LOL, Ray, nobody is going to think you are racist for not supporting Obama

Could you please tell me what Gore plans to do about Iraq? .....I have not heard his ideas on that.

450SEL6.9

I just didn't want anyone to mistake that I think the US president has to be white. I only want the Democrats to go to its proven winning formula, which happens to be running a safe, white southern male. They can't afford to run another Massachusetts Liberal or throw up a riskier candidate than they need. In 2000, when the world was a safer place, I would have been on board for an Obama Experiment.

As for Gore's Iraq policy, he's keeping to himself and I can't help you there. He's only said that he would make an immediate assessment of the situation and find the "least bad" way to solve it. I think he advocates firm deadlines for bringing troops home.

He has no reason to publicize his position. If he gets into the race, he'll do it last minute and doesn't need to give his opponents time to digest his Iraq policy. Heck, even the candidates running don't have clear policy initiatives for the Iraq mess, so he's got nothing to gain by laying out his.

I hear a Nobel peace prize might get Al into the race. I just don't think he'll win the Nobel. He ran a lousy campaign in 2000 and still won the popular vote. I think he is the safest choice. Why take a bigger risk than you need with Clinton or Obama? This is not the year to ask, "would voters, especially those in the south, do something they have never done and never been asked to do?"

Hypersonic

^^ Do you really think there is any real risk for the Democrats? ....I mean, they could have Sponge Bob as their Presidential candidate and still win. I can't imagine the Republicans have got much chance this time around. I predict a landslide victory for the Democrats.

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