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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Audi vs. BMW...how close is it? A while back I read an interview in an auto publication did w/ Audi big wig, Martin Winterkorn. I distinctly remember these words quoted as being his very own in the article, "look for us to beat BMW at their own game". Is it possible? What steps will the brand need to take in order to make good on Dr. Winterkorns words? What evidence within the current offerings from Audi give credibility to such a bold statement? |
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![]() ![]() | Re: Audi vs. BMW...how close is it? The new generation of Audis are damn fine vehicles. Great designs, superb build quality and ever improving driving dynamics. Let's not forget that the A8 now not only outhandles the S, but even the 7-series. And I think this is what he means when he says ''beat them at their own game". |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Audi vs. BMW...how close is it? They are more sportier than Mercedes but BMW still have better manual gearboxes and better steering feedback than Audi. The new RS4 handles slightly better than M3 on short tracks but Im sure next M3 will take care of that. Personally I wouldnt mind seeing Audi building RWD rather than FWD. IMO Audi is always one step behind BMW but yes, Audi is closer to BMW than Mercedes. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Audi vs. BMW...how close is it? Well, look at the last Audi cars: A8, S4 and especially RS4 and S8. They are beating BMW in the engine territories...who would have thought that a while ago? And the RS4 has got nothing but great reviews about it's handling and the "big dead horse in the front grille is gone" as Top Gear said. I say Audi is here to stay, so start taking them serious. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Audi vs. BMW...how close is it? It is true... Audi has improved very much the last years. I have driven the current A4 end i can say it is a great car in all categories. Driving, quality,... I think that these years, MB has lost the game. It's many steps back and needs to much work and some years more to be again the leader of the luxury car market. And i don't know if the bosses there are willing to, or are able to do all that stuff! As for the winner of the game... There is no clear winner. For me, BMW is half a step ahead of Audi, but look at how good is Audi now. I guess that if they improve their sales a bit in US, then they will be the clear winner.... I remember a quote from an interview of a car guy some months ago... he said "Audi knows the way to make the best cars. Now the buyers have to understand it" |
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![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Audi vs. BMW...how close is it? The problem is that there is only one "Ultimate Driving Machine". The heads of Audi must be mad. If Audi is to succed in long term they need to position themselves not as "the other BMW". They need to find a spot in the minds of the people that is not filled by someone else. BMW did not succeded by being "the other MB". So if Audi bosses are still clueless to what Audi stands for that there is no problem for BMW, no matter how good their cars are. |
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