Audi fires back at BMW in war of words - Page 2

SCOTT27 · 06-21-2007, 07:23 PM

How about? No Independence and No high Performance petrol engined SUV.

(underneath in brackets) ( Porsche wont let us.)

Mirage77 · 06-21-2007, 11:02 PM

I wished we had such advertising rivalry here, it would be so interesting to watch the carmakers chide each other.

Poverty · 06-22-2007, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTT27

How about? No Independence and No high Performance petrol engined SUV.

(underneath in brackets) ( Porsche wont let us.)

touchy. Its not VAG's fault that BMW failed with rover. Whoops

martinbo · 06-22-2007, 09:29 AM

Wha...! BMW has a high-performance SUV?!? How, what, where, when?

Last I heard, BMW had ditched "Utility" in favour of Aerobics or Pilates or Yoga or some other form of "Activity"...

Imhotep Evil · 06-22-2007, 09:33 AM

The allroad "quattro" is also Aerobics or Pilates or Yoga or some other form of "Activity"... it ain't no WRC car that's for sure.

And the Q7 ain't no Defender or Hilux.

But all this is non-sense.

martinbo · 06-22-2007, 10:07 AM

The Q7, whilst not as rugged as its Touareg sister car (now that thing really is a capable SUV) by virtue of its longer wheelbase is still a moderately competent vehicle on rough dirt tracks and sand.

The allroad is a convetional station wagon (Audi does in no way purport this car to be a sport-anything vehicle) with all of the on-road benefits on lower mass, lower frontal area, better drag co-efficient, lower centre of gravity, car-like handling and better fuel consumption. Combined with a nifty 185 mm of lift-mode ground clearance for that little dirt road excursion cars like the Audi allroad are the thinking man's lifestyle vehicle.

Imhotep Evil · 06-22-2007, 11:02 AM

But still far from the real deal.
It's simply that some are more lifestyle than others, rather that one is the real deal while the other isn't.

And LR/RR 4x4 than can play in the mud, rarely do, because they're bought by "soccer moms" and/or divorced women or execs. who don't know the meaning of mud.

For me, if it ain't a tank, Hilux/Defender or "killer bee", it ain't the real thing.
OK I'll add Subaru Foresters to make you happy too.

Amazing how childish BMW and Audi grown ups can be.

martinbo · 06-22-2007, 11:16 AM

Very kind of you - but sadly a Forester is decidedly soft when compared with Cruisers, Defenders and the like!

So I guess you're right, it's all really down to varying degrees of what is truly useful and what's actually just designed to appeal to the tastes of the well heeled consumer.

ateekt · 06-22-2007, 12:22 PM

One of my favorite station-wagon/state car

...!

Always loved to have both of them, Outback & Allroad

...!

Yannis · 06-22-2007, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateekt

One of my favorite station-wagon/state car

...!

Mine too. I would had bought one but it's too expensive for my wallet.

06-21-2007, 07:23 PM	#11 (permalink)
SCOTT27 Contributor Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 258 Thanks: 0 Thanked 229 Times in 87 Posts	Re: Not Rear wheel drive... How about? No Independence and No high Performance petrol engined SUV. (underneath in brackets) ( Porsche wont let us.)

06-21-2007, 11:02 PM	#12 (permalink)
Mirage77 The Doughnutman. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 5,438 Thanks: 1,473 Thanked 1,225 Times in 722 Posts	Re: Not Rear wheel drive... I wished we had such advertising rivalry here, it would be so interesting to watch the carmakers chide each other.

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martinbo Fanatic Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Johannesburg Posts: 1,250 Thanks: 136 Thanked 202 Times in 114 Posts	Re: Not Rear wheel drive... Wha...! BMW has a high-performance SUV?!? How, what, where, when? Last I heard, BMW had ditched "Utility" in favour of Aerobics or Pilates or Yoga or some other form of "Activity"...

06-22-2007, 09:33 AM	#15 (permalink)
Imhotep Evil Devotee Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,898 Thanks: 255 Thanked 154 Times in 116 Posts	Re: Not Rear wheel drive... The allroad "quattro" is also Aerobics or Pilates or Yoga or some other form of "Activity"... it ain't no WRC car that's for sure. And the Q7 ain't no Defender or Hilux. But all this is non-sense.

06-22-2007, 10:07 AM	#16 (permalink)
martinbo Fanatic Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Johannesburg Posts: 1,250 Thanks: 136 Thanked 202 Times in 114 Posts	Re: Not Rear wheel drive... The Q7, whilst not as rugged as its Touareg sister car (now that thing really is a capable SUV) by virtue of its longer wheelbase is still a moderately competent vehicle on rough dirt tracks and sand. The allroad is a convetional station wagon (Audi does in no way purport this car to be a sport-anything vehicle) with all of the on-road benefits on lower mass, lower frontal area, better drag co-efficient, lower centre of gravity, car-like handling and better fuel consumption. Combined with a nifty 185 mm of lift-mode ground clearance for that little dirt road excursion cars like the Audi allroad are the thinking man's lifestyle vehicle.

06-22-2007, 11:02 AM	#17 (permalink)
Imhotep Evil Devotee Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,898 Thanks: 255 Thanked 154 Times in 116 Posts	Re: Not Rear wheel drive... But still far from the real deal. It's simply that some are more lifestyle than others, rather that one is the real deal while the other isn't. And LR/RR 4x4 than can play in the mud, rarely do, because they're bought by "soccer moms" and/or divorced women or execs. who don't know the meaning of mud. For me, if it ain't a tank, Hilux/Defender or "killer bee", it ain't the real thing. OK I'll add Subaru Foresters to make you happy too. Amazing how childish BMW and Audi grown ups can be.

06-22-2007, 11:16 AM	#18 (permalink)
martinbo Fanatic Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Johannesburg Posts: 1,250 Thanks: 136 Thanked 202 Times in 114 Posts	Re: Not Rear wheel drive... Very kind of you - but sadly a Forester is decidedly soft when compared with Cruisers, Defenders and the like! So I guess you're right, it's all really down to varying degrees of what is truly useful and what's actually just designed to appeal to the tastes of the well heeled consumer.

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ateekt Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dominican Republic Posts: 397 Thanks: 70 Thanked 29 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Not Rear wheel drive... One of my favorite station-wagon/state car ...! Always loved to have both of them, Outback & Allroad ...!

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