Lutz confirms V12-powered Cadillac flagship

dOmInIX · 05-17-2007, 12:45 PM

Bob Lutz, General Motors product guru, has confirmed plans for a new Cadillac V12-powered flagship sedan. The new sedan is expected to be inspired by the popular Cadillac Sixteen coupe car, and will compete with the Mercedes S-Class and Lexus LS.

Lutz said in an interview that GM’s Holden division is working on the new V12 for the new flagship. The new V12 is built from two 3.6L V6 engines mated to a common crankshaft. The 7.2L V12 will feature direct-injection, and deliver around 600-hp.

Early test mules for the flagship Cadillac are reportedly riding on the new rear-wheel-drive Zeta platform. The Zeta platform may underpin more than the test mules, with the production model also derived from the Zeta.

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zetableh · 05-17-2007, 07:56 PM

Oh, this is such good news

kovachian · 05-17-2007, 10:02 PM

That's awesome, I can't wait to see what they come up with. It's about time Cadillac grew it's balls back.

Osnabrueck · 05-17-2007, 11:45 PM

This is good news provided that Cadillac is up to the task of delivering a product worthy of its market position. The XLR fell flat on its ass because it was a car that was priced and packaged to compete with the SL, but simply didn't have the goods.

Sure, if you price it high they will come. But how many "they" are is entirely dependent upon weather or not the product has substance. The XLR was almost a joke, and there's no reason why a new Caddy flagship couldn't be just as awful.

Merc1 · 05-18-2007, 12:27 AM

Yeah this will be interesting. 600hp will ensure it has the oomph, but the interior, styling, refinement and engineering has to be tops to compete with cars like the S-Class and LS.

M

Osnabrueck · 05-18-2007, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Merc1

...but the interior, styling, refinement and engineering has to be tops to compete with cars like the S-Class and LS.

And do you believe for even a nanosecond that GM is capable of delivering in those departments? Nothing would point to the affirmative. The DTS is the "most classy" thing in GM's current portfolio, and the XLR was simply pitiful if we consider that the SL was the car's goalpost.

It'll be a pleasant shock if Caddy is able to pull a compelling flaship out of their ass. Right now, the cards seem stacked against it.

Merc1 · 05-18-2007, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osnabrueck

And do you believe for even a nanosecond that GM is capable of delivering in those departments? Nothing would point to the affirmative. The DTS is the "most classy" thing in GM's current portfolio, and the XLR was simply pitiful if we consider that the SL was the car's goalpost.

It'll be a pleasant shock if Caddy is able to pull a compelling flaship out of their ass. Right now, the cards seem stacked against it.

Well I want to believe it, but unless GM has truly changed the way they do cars then it won't have a prayer of matching anything in this class.

M

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dOmInIX Devotee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Croatia Posts: 2,660 My Mood: Thanks: 352 Thanked 388 Times in 217 Posts	Lutz confirms V12-powered Cadillac flagship Bob Lutz, General Motors product guru, has confirmed plans for a new Cadillac V12-powered flagship sedan. The new sedan is expected to be inspired by the popular Cadillac Sixteen coupe car, and will compete with the Mercedes S-Class and Lexus LS. Lutz said in an interview that GM’s Holden division is working on the new V12 for the new flagship. The new V12 is built from two 3.6L V6 engines mated to a common crankshaft. The 7.2L V12 will feature direct-injection, and deliver around 600-hp. Early test mules for the flagship Cadillac are reportedly riding on the new rear-wheel-drive Zeta platform. The Zeta platform may underpin more than the test mules, with the production model also derived from the Zeta. autoinsidernews

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zetableh Advocate Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Connecticut/New York Posts: 546 Thanks: 63 Thanked 58 Times in 30 Posts	Re: Lutz confirms V12-powered Cadillac flagship Oh, this is such good news

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kovachian Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Deerfield Beach Posts: 160 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Lutz confirms V12-powered Cadillac flagship That's awesome, I can't wait to see what they come up with. It's about time Cadillac grew it's balls back.

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Osnabrueck Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,858 Thanks: 233 Thanked 203 Times in 128 Posts	Re: Lutz confirms V12-powered Cadillac flagship This is good news provided that Cadillac is up to the task of delivering a product worthy of its market position. The XLR fell flat on its ass because it was a car that was priced and packaged to compete with the SL, but simply didn't have the goods. Sure, if you price it high they will come. But how many "they" are is entirely dependent upon weather or not the product has substance. The XLR was almost a joke, and there's no reason why a new Caddy flagship couldn't be just as awful.

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Merc1 Contributor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Aurora IL USA Posts: 4,955 Thanks: 363 Thanked 672 Times in 346 Posts	Re: Lutz confirms V12-powered Cadillac flagship Yeah this will be interesting. 600hp will ensure it has the oomph, but the interior, styling, refinement and engineering has to be tops to compete with cars like the S-Class and LS. M

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