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Old 02-06-2007, 03:27 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: New BMW 7-series will come with 8-speed transmission

Thats about as innovative as my ghetto ipod

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Old 02-06-2007, 07:13 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: New BMW 7-series will come with 8-speed transmission

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Manuals I don't know, but it's not just automatics that have more than 6 cogs, the SMG III also has 7 and I heard that a 7 speed dual clutch is on the way.

So we have automatics, sequentials, and soon dual-clutches all with more than 6 cogs.
CVTs also have 7 gears. The A6 CVT for example, allows you to change through the 7 gears using button shifters.

Anyway, so much for Lexus having 'too many gears'.
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Old 02-06-2007, 10:58 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: New BMW 7-series will come with 8-speed transmission

Does anyone know what happened to BMW's version of DSG (Audi's Direct Switch Gearbox) ...It has been rumored for a long time...If I remember correctly, it was supposed to be called DCG (Double Clutch Gearbox)..Thank you in advance for any info from our 'insiders'
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Re: New BMW 7-series will come with 8-speed transmission

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Does anyone know what happened to BMW's version of DSG (Audi's Direct Switch Gearbox) ...It has been rumored for a long time...If I remember correctly, it was supposed to be called DCG (Double Clutch Gearbox)..Thank you in advance for any info from our 'insiders'
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Re: New BMW 7-series will come with 8-speed transmission

it was ZSG if ui remember correctly not DCG
and yes i think the 7er will come with some form of advanced ZSG with 7 cogs
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Re: New BMW 7-series will come with 8-speed transmission

CVT's do not have gears per se.
but they can be programmed to lock on to any number of ratios, or virtyual gears
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Does anyone know what happened to BMW's version of DSG (Audi's Direct Switch Gearbox) ...It has been rumored for a long time...If I remember correctly, it was supposed to be called DCG (Double Clutch Gearbox)..Thank you in advance for any info from our 'insiders'

The gearbox is still in testing. General development is done, now BMW engineers are tweaking the gearbox to fit BMW driving dynamics. I will come sooner than you think.

335si will definitely get it. Latest info is the car will debut after M3, not before it. Also due longer-than-planned DCT tests.

And yes, F01/02 7er will debut a new automatic transmission. But will it really have 8 gears? Khmmmm Do you realy think 8 is a right number?
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Re: New BMW 7-series will come with 8-speed transmission

All I can say is that if it really improves fuel economy then it's a good thing... it can have 8 million gears for all I care. Otherwise shame on them.
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335si will definitely get it. Latest info is the car will debut after M3, not before it. Also due longer-than-planned DCT tests.
I heard SMG is for M3 but will be replaced with DSG (or whatever they call it) when the product is finished.
Is it really a good thing to get rid of SMG when they sorted out the bugproblems with the DSG. Isnt this going to upset m3 owners and people thinking of buying a M3 might wait for the DSg instead. What if DSg is replacing SMG after only 6 months. Its better if they only offer M3 with manual while waiting for DSG:
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:08 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I heard SMG is for M3 but will be replaced with DSG (or whatever they call it) when the product is finished.
Is it really a good thing to get rid of SMG when they sorted out the bugproblems with the DSG. Isnt this going to upset m3 owners and people thinking of buying a M3 might wait for the DSg instead. What if DSg is replacing SMG after only 6 months. Its better if they only offer M3 with manual while waiting for DSG:

SMG technology is still much more racing oriented - shifting as fast as DSG yet having much better response time. DSG response time is awful in hard braking-accelerating-braking-accelerating case - when compared directly to SMG. But DSG has some significant advantages: much lower torque loss, being more economical, shifting is much smoother. BMW engineers are working in two ways: making existing SMG III gearbox a bit more smoother & economical, while DSG needs much quicker response times to match BMW M standards of driving dynamics. Tweaking is in progress on both transmission types. I hope hard work will bring some excellent results quite soon.
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