Autocar: M3 testdrive report

Just_me · 07-06-2007, 03:18 AM

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The new M3 is a big joke to me

And the steering never scores more than six out of 10 no matter where or how you drive the car. Nor do the brakes, which suffered from fade on the road and went away badly on the track. Or the fuel consumption, which was regularly down in the mid-teens on roads on which the old car would have hit well over 20mpg.

Just_me · 07-06-2007, 03:22 AM

M3 could be too refined for its own good -

- the M3 still a king? haha you guys must be joking, its not even a prince.

The Emperor · 07-06-2007, 03:31 AM

Both you and Autocar can fo!

Yannis · 07-06-2007, 03:36 AM

WHAT!!!

It seems BMW (like Audi with the A5) is going the American way. Softer suspension , less steering feedback , easier to drive overall for the unexperienced driver.

We might end up with Lexus handling standards if they continue this way!

YoUhimhER · 07-06-2007, 03:37 AM

they have such a good car as the base to build on.... how did they manage to ruin it?

The Emperor · 07-06-2007, 03:41 AM

Two reviews and it's already ruined? Lol! Be serious, please...

You guys honestly think M division screwed their icon? Not in the million years!

YoUhimhER · 07-06-2007, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yannis

WHAT!!!

It seems BMW (like Audi with the A5) is going the American way. Softer suspension , less steering feedback , easier to drive overall for the unexperienced driver.

We might end up with Lexus handling standards if they continue this way!

that would be a nightmare.

i read the whole report, they didnt ruin it, but not very m3-like, more amg like perhaps. so now we have c63 trying to be the m3 and m3 trying to be the c amg.

martinbo · 07-06-2007, 03:44 AM

Ja so? Were we expecting anything better than what Sutters had to say about the car? Given that he is one of the most experienced and talented motoring journo's out there, it's understandable that he's being highly critical of such an eagerly anticipated car.

Steering with a 6 out of 10? Not the end of the world - this could just be a pre-production model and they're using the journalists to gauge dynamic appeal. As with all previous M models, they initially garner a little flak from the motoring press for not being what they might have expected. Then, with time and familiarity the M3 shows its true colours once more.

Of course the fuel consumption was going to be in the high teens - it's basically an eight cylinder S85 for Moses' sake. If you want the horses, you must feed them.

Monster · 07-06-2007, 03:44 AM

I am starting to feel a bit disappointed with this new M3. The Autocar review is similar to the CAR review. The new M3 has gone soft.

The Emperor · 07-06-2007, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martinbo

Ja so? Were we expecting anything better than what Sutters had to say about the car? Given that he is one of the most experienced and talented motoring journo's out there, it's understandable that he's being highly critical of such an eagerly anticipated car.

Steering with a 6 out of 10? Not the end of the world - this could just be a pre-production model and they're using the journalists to gauge dynamic appeal. As with all previous M models, they initially garner a little flak from the motoring press for not being what they might have expected. Then, with time and familiarity the M3 shows its true colours once more.

Of course the fuel consumption was going to be in the high teens - it's basically an eight cylinder S85 for Moses' sake. If you want the horses, you must feed them.

Martin, would you agree that we should wait EVO, MotorTrend, R&T and SportAuto to get their hands on it to get a little bit clearer and better pic about M3?

07-06-2007, 03:18 AM	#1 (permalink)
Just_me Expert Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 12,612 Thanks: 741 Thanked 2,035 Times in 1,028 Posts	Autocar: M3 testdrive report - ONLY REGISTERED AND ACTIVATED USERS CAN SEE ALL LINKS - CLICK HERE TO REGISTER The new M3 is a big joke to me And the steering never scores more than six out of 10 no matter where or how you drive the car. Nor do the brakes, which suffered from fade on the road and went away badly on the track. Or the fuel consumption, which was regularly down in the mid-teens on roads on which the old car would have hit well over 20mpg.

07-06-2007, 03:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
Just_me Expert Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 12,612 Thanks: 741 Thanked 2,035 Times in 1,028 Posts	Re: Autocar: M3 tesdrive report M3 could be too refined for its own good - - the M3 still a king? haha you guys must be joking, its not even a prince.

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Yannis Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 7,198 My Mood: Thanks: 1,243 Thanked 1,229 Times in 701 Posts	Re: Autocar: M3 testdrive report WHAT!!! It seems BMW (like Audi with the A5) is going the American way. Softer suspension , less steering feedback , easier to drive overall for the unexperienced driver. We might end up with Lexus handling standards if they continue this way!

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YoUhimhER Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 337 Thanks: 82 Thanked 53 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Autocar: M3 testdrive report they have such a good car as the base to build on.... how did they manage to ruin it?

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The Emperor Malicious Persecutor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Where noone has gone before... Posts: 9,144 My Mood: Thanks: 1,408 Thanked 1,572 Times in 953 Posts	Re: Autocar: M3 testdrive report Two reviews and it's already ruined? Lol! Be serious, please... You guys honestly think M division screwed their icon? Not in the million years!

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martinbo Fanatic Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Johannesburg Posts: 1,250 Thanks: 136 Thanked 202 Times in 114 Posts	Re: Autocar: M3 tesdrive report Ja so? Were we expecting anything better than what Sutters had to say about the car? Given that he is one of the most experienced and talented motoring journo's out there, it's understandable that he's being highly critical of such an eagerly anticipated car. Steering with a 6 out of 10? Not the end of the world - this could just be a pre-production model and they're using the journalists to gauge dynamic appeal. As with all previous M models, they initially garner a little flak from the motoring press for not being what they might have expected. Then, with time and familiarity the M3 shows its true colours once more. Of course the fuel consumption was going to be in the high teens - it's basically an eight cylinder S85 for Moses' sake. If you want the horses, you must feed them.

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Monster Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,157 My Mood: Thanks: 391 Thanked 302 Times in 218 Posts	Re: Autocar: M3 testdrive report I am starting to feel a bit disappointed with this new M3. The Autocar review is similar to the CAR review. The new M3 has gone soft.

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