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Originally Posted by bolidismo  OK ...I know you don't want to get into this ....but this is total BS.
The attacks on the WTC had absolutely nothing to do with any of those issues you just mentioned. Al Qaeda (and other Radical groups) have there own reasons for jihad ....it is a fundamentalist religious one -- destroying the infidels.
The "America got what it deserved" belief (which has become popular among many Europeans) is extremely misinformed, misguided, and incorrect -- but has played right into the hands of Al Qaeda. |
First: no civilian deserves to die in a military / terrorist attack. I condemn the people who say "Americans deserved 9/11". People who were on the planes & in the buildings & the firefighters etc. definitely did not "deserve" to die in such blatant attack.
Eg. Hamas / Jihad anti-American stance is quite old - and it derives from US support of Israel in the Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
Same case with Iranian regime - since US were supporting corrupted Shah Reza regime before the Islamic Revolution. Same case with Cuba before Communist revolution.
Regarding Bin Laden the situation is more complicated - since Bin Laden / Al Qaeda / Talibans were American allies during Afghanistan civil war - communist revolution (US vs. USSR). I have no idea why Bin Laden converted into anti-American.
Same case with Sadam Hussein during the Iraqi-Iranian war - Iraq incl Hussein's regime were American allies.
It has a lot to do with very pragmatic US foreign policy - supporting pro-American regimes around the world regarding the fact the regime is democratic or not. Saudi Arabia (not a very democratic regime) is a good example. Various South American & African countries too. Not to mention Pakistan.
Think: why is Al Qaeda targeting US mainly - while in Europe, and in the other parts in the world it is not very active. Why they are jot "converting" Indians (Hindu) or Japanese (Buddhism). Or Russians (Orthodox Catholics). Or Brazilians & Mexicans (Catholics). Or Scandinavians (Protestants) etc. Sine all of the mentioned nations are "infidels".
Muslim world has some specific issues with USA.
It's cause - consequence relation.
And it has a lot to do with Jewish / Zionist / Israel issue.
And sometimes hypocritical US foreign / military policy - only making pragmatic alliances, but when the inheres is over allies are very quickly abandoned (especially when starting to demand more co-decision-making).
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Nothing to do with American people per se. People are usually brainwashed & misled by the state propaganda via educational system & mass media. They just can't understand what's going on. That's the case in quite some countries around the world.
The US military & foreign policies are what bothers me sometimes & I have issues with. Since these policies are designed & executed to satisfy US interests - which are in the very essence of economical matters (new markets, stable economical environment, access to new resources etc. Kind a colonialistic behavior.
Nothing much really happened from the very beginning of human history. Mind: eg. Roman Empire, British Empire, Spanish Empire, Mongolian Empire, Chinese Empires, Ottoman Empire, German Empire, Austrian-Hungarian Empire, USSR, EU etc.
Same thing- different eras, different "
PR". And methods are changed a bit - but not much.
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Originally Posted by bolidismo But precisely what bias are you referring to with the historical accounts of WW2 from "the winners" perspective -- many Japanese born after WW2 are not even aware of much of what happened. |
And that's wrong. Every generation should learn about history.
Even in my country is not all pinky. The curriculum includes the "recent history" (WWII and on) but very often there is no time to lecture it - since it is scheduled at the end of the school years. Either in elementary, or high schools.
Regarding bias winner's interpretation of history: it's the issue how some actions are evaluated & labeled. As you can see actions of the winning side are justified, while actions of the losing side are not.