klier

Never in a million years.

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AdvEvo

Autoexpress says the 135i wil not come.

Scott enilab?

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/au...w_1series.html

My humble opinion is that a 130i is enough for a bmw model. Why do we need more power if a 130i can t handle the power without a M diff or lsd.

We only need more if M makes one. And that means no turbo please.

Look what packeisen did with 130i engine




haben wir uns entschieden den neu aufgebauten M3 Motor wieder herraus zu nehmen und den BMW 1er 3,0l Magnesium Motor weiter zu entwickeln.


Mit aufwendiger Zylinder Block/Kopf Bearbeitung, EFI Einspritzung und Einzeldrosselkomponenten sowie neu entwickelter Airbox, holten die Wuppertaler ersteinmal 340 PS aus dem in der Serie behaftetem 265PS Agregat.

so why a 135i bmw

340hp out of a 130i engine.

Harry Plopper

Yes, an Alpine White E81 was scooped in Cape Town during promo movie shooting.

135i ... according to my info no 135i until 235i, and 335si.

I4 engines (petrol & diesel) will be updated with E81 premiere & E87 facelift in Spring 2007.

E81 will also come with already facelifted 1er face, and 2.0l I4 turbo engine ... with around 200PS (either 204PS or 218PS): designated either 120si or 123i. I'm still not sure turbo model will be available at launch, are a few months later (with 2er cabrio announcement).


PS: I also forgot to say: there will be a B-pillar (AE are saying there is no B-pillar)! But just like 2er coupe, E81 3dr 1er's doors will come without window frame - just like on all BMW coupes. So B-pillar will be "hidden" behind glass instead behind door's window frame.

YoungWarrior

wow BMW are making a 2.0T, looks like they are taking a leaf out of audi's book again.

I hope the 2er will look niceer than the 1er.

Just_me

hmm, a 2.0 liter and turbo, what so special with that? Many cars has used that formula and its nothing new.

SCOTT27

But with more power , less weight , better dynamics,better steering and much better weight distribution - ouch! bet that hurts...

What early plans I have seen is that there will be a 135i 3dr But currently BMW are in the middle of finalizing plans for an M-badged Coupe and want this to be the focus at the top end of the model range in the long term.
BMW want this car to be the pinnacle of the 2er in the USA.

The new lower end turbo engine will be badged as 125i in keeping with the twin-turbo in the 3er as 335i . The upcoming V8 turbo seen first in the 7er will be badged as 745i - BMW wanting to keep the engine line-up in the "fives" realm.

Harry Plopper

I heard M2 still did not get a green light, yet it is in a final phase of decision. So BoD is just about to decide about the car ("go, or no go").

125i? Are you sure it will be badged 125i, and not 123i? That means it will definitely have same power output (218PS) as 3.0L N53 HPI engine in 325i, and not 204PS which was also an option.

OK, I see: it makes sense.

YoungWarrior

the VAG 2.0T comes up to 265hp so not more power, or not yet anyway. The standard A4 2.0T has 220hp anyway in the UK.

As for dynamics etc comments they are mute points as were talking about the engine and nothing more, but I could always pull out the MK2 TT as an example, you know the car that has been winning all those awards

YoungWarrior

It is when BMW used to rave about being NA so much. Plus we know that BMW saw audi's sucess with the turbo engines and followed suite as that BMW engineer said so according to a member from this site.

RikfromBelgium

sorry to burst your bubble here, but if there is any brand that took over the BMW strategy, it's Audi. I'm not saying they're not good at it, but just be honest.

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