1er / 2er future models: Scott26 reports; part 2

Harry Plopper · 04-12-2006, 02:34 PM

Old thread with a lot of info:

http://www.germancarzone.com/showthread.php?t=1380

Fresh info (04/12/2006):

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott26

The front lights - ONLY REGISTERED AND ACTIVATED USERS CAN SEE ALL LINKS - CLICK HERE TO REGISTER are similar to the upcoming 2er coupe and cabrio - an intense sportier look from the cute and cuddly 1er...

Look at recent BMW annoucements - specially the 02 series which is more commonly known as 2002 which was recently rebuilt in 2006 to celebrate it's anniversary. BMW are subliminally communicating the message of their forthcoming baby coupe.

Everything is now starting to make sense: a mid range 3er Coupe leaves the segment open for an E87 based model . Which to be more USA savvy will adopt the 2er label - the 2002 was very popular in the USA especially with BMW 2002 enthusiasts. Now it's coming back The 1er is conceived to be a 2 stage model , the coupe/cabrio will follow the lead with the 3er coupe with different front end, the rear is exact to the CS1 concept car . And it is these cars that the US market will receive - no sedan is planned for any markets.

So, scott's confirmed my info:

Quote:

Originally Posted by EniLab

Interesting:

BMW are trying to create a new interest in a classic 02-series (2002 tii) by re-introducing it.
They even started to use 02-series (02er Reihe) naming.

Get it? They are preparing the ground for a new 2-series coming next year in a 2-door sedan-ish coupe & cabrio form (E89 & E86) - as a reincarnation of classic 02-series.

BMW_Dude · 04-12-2006, 02:39 PM

If the 2 series will look anything like that PS, it's going to look hot!

So is there going to be an M2, because it is going to be sold in the American market?

Harry Plopper · 04-12-2006, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMW_Dude

If the 2 series will look anything like that PS, it's going to look hot!

The man just said only front lights would be similar.

Quote:

So is there going to be an M2, because it is going to be sold in the American market?

The plan is, but the calculations are not made yet - depends on demand, the pricing of based model, the potential pricing of M2, and the calculated profit margin, available M resources, competition moves etc. The engine for potential M2 is already in development. But, even if there were no M2, there would be a top "si" version of 2er.

Centurion · 04-12-2006, 03:30 PM

Wohoo a mini M3, sounds sweet. With atleast 280hp, a cute shape and a nice price it will be a hit.

AdvEvo · 04-12-2006, 05:52 PM

I am waiting for a M2 coupe. I really hope M makes us one.

I heard rumours it s going to be 4inline turbo.
I hope not. M should be high rev. no turbo engines.

2.5liter inline 4 with 8500 rpm and 300hp would fill my needs exactly or a 3.0 liter high rev 6 banger 340hp placed further back for nice balance. I just pray they keep the weight in check. No more than 1300kg. Wide arches. Option for csl style seats for the enthusiast. nice 18inch wheels, Alcantara steering wheel like in my CS now. M diff LSD. Maybe an CSL airbox or do ask to much now

if they do. They have my money.

Top Secret · 04-12-2006, 09:54 PM

I'm still skeptical of scott's information. I can't remember the last time he's had information that actually turned out to be true.

Deutsch · 04-12-2006, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Secret

I'm still skeptical of scott's information. I can't remember the last time he's had information that actually turned out to be true.

I'm an agreement. Would be nice if Eni could shed some light on this thought?

Matt · 04-13-2006, 12:25 AM

Sry, accidentally posted on the old thread..... Heres what I said pertaining to Duetch's questioning of Scott's reliabilty about the 1 getting the turbo:

^I think you mean 3 litre.

Actually Scott26 is wrong (not necesarily his fault falt) but the 1 will get the 3.0 litre turbo when it comes to the U.S. That was made official at the Hawaii BMW DAG meeting. Imagine a 300 hp 1 series....R32, prepare to get smoked...

Porsche Guy · 04-13-2006, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt

Actually Scott26 is wrong (not necesarily his fault falt) but the 1 will get the 3.0 litre turbo when it comes to the U.S. That was made official at the Hawaii BMW DAG meeting. Imagine a 300 hp 1 series....R32, prepare to get smoked...

If only it was a 300hp NA 3.0 liter engine.

AdvEvo · 04-13-2006, 04:47 AM

No turbo please.

Turbo s belong on 4wd jap tin rally boxes not on bmw.

I hope they reconsider.

The M2 should not get a turbo.

M2 ---> ca. 300 hp
M3 ---> ca. 400 hp
M5 ---> ca. 500 hp
M6 ---> ca. 500 hp

Would be plane stupid if we see a turbo in there.

04-12-2006, 02:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
BMW_Dude Aficionado Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,224 My Mood: Thanks: 265 Thanked 392 Times in 234 Posts	Re: BMW 1-series variants: Scott26 reports If the 2 series will look anything like that PS, it's going to look hot! So is there going to be an M2, because it is going to be sold in the American market?

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Centurion Trendsetter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 7,075 Thanks: 595 Thanked 723 Times in 422 Posts	Re: 1er / 2er future models: Scott26 reports; part 2 Wohoo a mini M3, sounds sweet. With atleast 280hp, a cute shape and a nice price it will be a hit.

04-12-2006, 05:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
AdvEvo Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 122 Thanks: 1 Thanked 34 Times in 15 Posts	Re: 1er / 2er future models: Scott26 reports; part 2 I am waiting for a M2 coupe. I really hope M makes us one. I heard rumours it s going to be 4inline turbo. I hope not. M should be high rev. no turbo engines. 2.5liter inline 4 with 8500 rpm and 300hp would fill my needs exactly or a 3.0 liter high rev 6 banger 340hp placed further back for nice balance. I just pray they keep the weight in check. No more than 1300kg. Wide arches. Option for csl style seats for the enthusiast. nice 18inch wheels, Alcantara steering wheel like in my CS now. M diff LSD. Maybe an CSL airbox or do ask to much now if they do. They have my money.

04-12-2006, 09:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
Top Secret Advocate Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 624 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 1er / 2er future models: Scott26 reports; part 2 I'm still skeptical of scott's information. I can't remember the last time he's had information that actually turned out to be true.

04-13-2006, 12:25 AM	#8 (permalink)
Matt Devotee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 2,882 Thanks: 210 Thanked 130 Times in 88 Posts	Re: 1er / 2er future models: Scott26 reports; part 2 Sry, accidentally posted on the old thread..... Heres what I said pertaining to Duetch's questioning of Scott's reliabilty about the 1 getting the turbo: ^I think you mean 3 litre. Actually Scott26 is wrong (not necesarily his fault falt) but the 1 will get the 3.0 litre turbo when it comes to the U.S. That was made official at the Hawaii BMW DAG meeting. Imagine a 300 hp 1 series....R32, prepare to get smoked...

04-13-2006, 04:47 AM	#10 (permalink)
AdvEvo Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 122 Thanks: 1 Thanked 34 Times in 15 Posts	Re: 1er / 2er future models: Scott26 reports; part 2 No turbo please. Turbo s belong on 4wd jap tin rally boxes not on bmw. I hope they reconsider. The M2 should not get a turbo. M2 ---> ca. 300 hp M3 ---> ca. 400 hp M5 ---> ca. 500 hp M6 ---> ca. 500 hp Would be plane stupid if we see a turbo in there.

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