1er / 2er future models: Scott26 reports; part 2 - Page 5

Harry Plopper · 04-25-2006, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by scott26

The convertible and coupe will follow closely the overall ideas of the CS1 Concept - The idea was just too precious to toss away - Knowing how much the car appealed not only in its Geneva debut but BMW also shipped it over to the USA for the 02 NY Autoshow where it also had exceptional appeal. Whilst Europe are expecting a range of engines similar to the 1er the US markets will receive a 223i and a 235i.

With the emphasis firmly on driver enjoyment for the Baby coupe the Benchmark is of course the 2002 and its inheritor the E30. But with driver enjoyment much the focus that BMW are evaluating the unorthodox choices: such as the lotus Elise for handling and precision.

The Baby M car when it arrives will use an engine developed from the WTCC car only with six cylinders and close to over 350 BHP. The four cylinder model badged Si will be available in the 3dr 1er giving BMW a rival to the Golf GTi.

Top Secret · 04-26-2006, 04:57 AM

That sounds...SO enticing.

350HP inline-6 + small, sleek coupe shape + RWD + 6-speed manual - iDrive - weight = Masterpiece.

BMW, it's all up to you now. They have all the opportunity in the world to make this car to potentially be one of the best cars ever. Let's hope they can do it right.

Imhotep Evil · 04-26-2006, 07:55 AM

Oh yeah.
Any rumors/news on how heavy will the 2er be.
Using the Lotus Elise as the standard/benchmark is great.
Finally.

shonguiz · 04-26-2006, 08:12 AM

I don't understand, and what about the NG4T ?? I don't see what he means by an engine developped form WTCC ??

Harry Plopper · 04-26-2006, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by shonguiz

I don't understand, and what about the NG4T ?? I don't see what he means by an engine developped form WTCC ??

I guess he wants to tell that 120si will use updated / uptuned I4 engine from 320si, while M2 will use the I6 engine derived from the I4 engine BMW use in 320si WTCC racing version.

This is on contrary what he (scott26) said earlier: no N54 engine in 2er (due to heavy weight: 187kg) neither I6 in M2 for the same reason - therefore NG4T in M2.

So, what's correct now? Scotty is blowing it this time!

Imhotep Evil · 04-26-2006, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by EniLab

I guess he wants to tell that 120si will use updated / uptuned I4 engine from 320si, while M2 will use the I6 engine derived from the I4 engine BMW use in 320si WTCC racing version.

This is on contrary what he (scott26) said earlier: no N54 engine in 2er (due to heavy weight: 187kg) neither I6 in M2 for the same reason - therefore NG4T in M2.

So, what's correct now? Scotty is blowing it this time!

Yep, I don't understand that either.

Centurion · 04-26-2006, 11:02 AM

Is it only me who is excited about the 2er. I'm so in love with the porportions of the cabrio, the coupe will look crazy.

Harry Plopper · 04-26-2006, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Luwalira

I'm so in love with the porportions of the cabrio, the coupe will look crazy.

I agree 100%

We can expect something like this:

warot · 04-26-2006, 12:28 PM

A 350 hp little coupe? That will blow everything that ///M has right now. As much as I love the idea, this might be a bit too good to be true. But I guess we can always hope that the car makes it to the final stages.

Harry Plopper · 04-26-2006, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by scott26

In 2008 the Z4 roadster will be entering it's final year of production , at this time both Z4M roadster and Z4M Coupe will inherit the new M3's V8 - With the baby M car entering production of 2008 it makes sense to enter this segment with an Mcar - the entry M car at about 350 PS. And remember with the current mainstream models being fettled nothing has been decided as yet in relation to the Mcar. But as always at BMW the creative fountain is flowing.

04-26-2006, 04:57 AM	#42 (permalink)
Top Secret Advocate Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 624 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 1er / 2er future models: Scott26 reports; part 2 That sounds...SO enticing. 350HP inline-6 + small, sleek coupe shape + RWD + 6-speed manual - iDrive - weight = Masterpiece. BMW, it's all up to you now. They have all the opportunity in the world to make this car to potentially be one of the best cars ever. Let's hope they can do it right.

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Imhotep Evil Devotee Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,899 Thanks: 257 Thanked 156 Times in 117 Posts	Re: 1er / 2er future models: Scott26 reports; part 2 Oh yeah. Any rumors/news on how heavy will the 2er be. Using the Lotus Elise as the standard/benchmark is great. Finally.

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shonguiz Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,481 Thanks: 182 Thanked 298 Times in 181 Posts	Re: 1er / 2er future models: Scott26 reports; part 2 I don't understand, and what about the NG4T ?? I don't see what he means by an engine developped form WTCC ??

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Centurion Trendsetter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 7,075 Thanks: 595 Thanked 724 Times in 422 Posts	Re: 1er / 2er future models: Scott26 reports; part 2 Is it only me who is excited about the 2er. I'm so in love with the porportions of the cabrio, the coupe will look crazy.

04-26-2006, 12:28 PM	#49 (permalink)
warot Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,413 Thanks: 31 Thanked 93 Times in 53 Posts	Re: 1er / 2er future models: Scott26 reports; part 2 A 350 hp little coupe? That will blow everything that ///M has right now. As much as I love the idea, this might be a bit too good to be true. But I guess we can always hope that the car makes it to the final stages.

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