siko

Wouldn't be simpler for BMW to stick the E46 M3's engine in the M2? It would be a rocket!

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Deutsch

That could be a possibility, at the same time it's very unliikely given that BMW is now developing more efficent engines w/ turbo's,DI, and a host of other advances they have made in their drivetrain technology.

AdvEvo

Yes an M2 with e46 m3 engine 343hp and 1350kg or lighter. Where can i sign.

BMW_Dude

I doubt that BMW would use a turbo in an M engine, that is where they draw the line! M engines will always be N/A!

AdvEvo

Turbo is nice but keep that in normal bmw cars.

Let M stick on NA engines. If you buy M you buy something special. And something special is not brutal turbo power.

Deutsch

Hint hint, there is a large possibility there will be NO M version of the 2er. Besides that, I would NOT be suprised if M took up BMW's new drivetrain development philosiphy in using forced induction.

Matt

I agree. Look at this: http://www.germancarzone.com/showthread.php?t=1200

warot

Well they almost called the new 3er Coupe the 4er. And that was cancelled because there is too much history. I'm not saying that ///M will never use FI, but I have a feeling that the enthusiasts and purist will want their engines to stay NA.

Imhotep Evil

Well, I also think there should only be NA ///M.
I hope they make an M2, but an 235 turbo is also a must to continue were the 2002 Turbo left off.

AdvEvo

if i was working at bmw i would do the 1 serie and 2 serie s sporty line up like this.

1 series

130i 272hp di engine. with lsd option.
120i 4cil turbo 285 hp. with lsd option.

2 series coupe

230i 6cil di engine 272hp with lsd option
220i 4cil turbo 285 hp with lsd option
M2 or old e46 m3 engine. or new 3.0 di engine build up to M specs. with 320hp more then 8000 revs on tap.

For me the 120i turbo would not be necesary i rather have NA engines. If i want a turbo i go shop at the jap tin boxes sti or evo s.

I would buy an N/A M2 without hasitation.

I have a m3 e46 right now very nice car very very nice engine. But the downside of the car is the sportiness. The 3 series has grown to much and that means to much weight to carry around. I find the new coupe 3 E90series no car anymore for a sporting agile m version anymore. The new m3 will be more a car on the side to m5 and m6. I really looking forward to a car more on the side at e30 m3 but the e30 m3 with 200 hp is after driving e46 m3 boring related to power.
So with the new m2 they need to go near the power to weight ratio of the outgoing e46 m3. So 320hp would be enough if they could reduce the weight also.

I know a 4cil turbo would be better for handling wise. Just drive a 130i and a 120d back to back then you know what i mean. But i would a sacrifice a little more weight on the front axle and get a high rev 6cil in it. The best bet would be a 2.5 high rev 4 cil atmo with 300 hp but that would possibly be impossible to make in mass production.

I really see potential in an N/A M2 because the new M3 has gone upmarket and will be more expensive than the E46 M3. So there is gap in M version land and it need to be filled in.

Andre dreaming of M2.

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