cawimmer430

Pricing for the new models will be revealed in September near the sale date.

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cawimmer430

My advice, pay more and get a 118i: better performance and fuel economy than a 116i. The salesman at the BMW dealership said that the 116i is generally bought by old people who have a problem with "overpowered" cars or don't need more horsepower. This ain't a generalization of typical 116i customers but you get the idea.

far2000

Will keep that in mind, i will be goin 2 the dealership 2day 2 testdrive the 116i, they also have a demo 120i and 120d in stock, will drive those as well....hope fully by later 2day i will come 2 a consensus.... ...


hows the 118i treatin ure sister?is that the havana colour?coz the dealership has that colour in stock as well, have u drfove it full on yet?

BMW_Owner

More great engines... the diesil in the new X5 on sale in Australia is amazing... although ims till a gasoline person... but jeez there making diesil the sweet deal arent they...

martinbo

Andreas, you and this "0-100 km/h isn't everything" thing...

Actually, I think it's one of the most important considerations. Acceleration from standstill to 100 km/h is the kind of acceleration that most cars will do most of the time in their lifetimes.

Granted - it's not the only thing either...

On another note, it's important to realise that gearing plays one of the biggest factors in the 0-100 km/h sprint. Typically, diesels with their short rev ranges need a change to third in order to make 100 km/h. Even if the power and torque are increased the actual elapsed time won't come down as much. It's in in-gear acceleration at freeway speeds that you'll see the biggest gains in performance.

The Emperor

I'll try to hit 100 in second gear today with my car and i'll let you know...

Maybe you know that already, Martin; will it be possible with my car? Honestly, never paid attention on that...

Just_me

sorry but during my 15 years driving I have rarely raced from 0-100km/h on the streets, more from rolling start to XXX km/h. Only time you do standstill to XXX is on 402m races. 0-100 is sooooo overrated , only reason you like it is becuase you are addicted to AWD

although 123d is similar 100 km/h to the 120d , the 123d will be quicker at higher speeds and acceleration in higher gears. 123d will be superior to 120d.

martinbo

Heh? Who said anything about racing?

No, I'm perfectly practical here. In the stop-start procedure of modern day driving, most of the pulling away is done from standstill. This is especially important to me because I'd like to be able to get ahead of some of the slower traffic to create some much needed space between my vehicle and rest of the mad gaggle.

Do I ever reach 100 km/h in urban driving conditions from standstill? Not always but this isn't the point. The point is that most drivers will be pulling away from standstill and not going from 160 km/h to 250 km/h. The fact that they're not chasing a record 0-100 km/h time is irrelevant as these time merely serve as an indication of the car's potential in regular driving. Acceleration is acceleration, how fast or slow you choose to do it is one's own business. But the fact remains: we all have to go from 0 to whatever every day of our modern driving lives...

Oh and by the way, for regular, day-to-day 0 to 100 km/h, AWD is overrated if you're not trying hard enough. It's only for when you really want to give it schtup!

Just_me

Only reason I use 0-xxx is in cities but there the limit is 50km/h. My main driving is on the freeway and on country roads and there standstill isnt needed. What a car can achieve 0-100km/h is no important to me. All I need to know is how fast I can pass a car, bus or a truck.
Martin put it as nice as you want it but 0-100km/h or any standstill numbers means very little to me

The Emperor

Not everyone drives every day on highways you know... Me for example, i use highways once a month, so i'll agree with Martin and his reasons why 0-100 is important in such everyday conditions.

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